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Old 11-01-2004, 11:43 PM
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First off let me say I am 16 so I can't vote tomorrow night, if I could I am not sure who I would vote for. Also let me mention that tho I am trying to be "Fair and Balanced" I tend to think kind of Liberal.. In 2000 I was rooting for Bush to win, I was pro-bush on most issues intill BPL, which got me looking at other issues that Bush might be mis-informed on.. or plain not caring.. Then again Kerry scares me with all the flip-flopping, and I read somewhere that he is also pushing BPL..

Cons Against Bush:

Against Gay Marriage (I am pro-gay marriage.. based on my personal oppinion that people have to right to choose who they want to marry if they are 18 or older (and the person they marry is 18 or older) there are things that people might debate with against me on this, and feel free to do so... but I am basically going to stick with my views, unless you can seriously prove me otherwise)

Pro-BPL and he also mentioned that we need to auction privately owned spectrum for use in BPL, that does not mean Ham radio Spectrum does it?

The war on Terror- can we win a war against extremists?


What I will give to bush is that he stands to his beliefs, and does not flip-flop every time things start to get rough, and I am still unsure about weather or not we found WMD's, because the news I read is usually biased and either pro-bush or anti-bush, and not the facts.. "Just the Facts Mam" -From Dragnet (one of the greatest detective shows off all time)

Cons against kerry:

He is a flip-flopper.. also I read he is pro-bpl aswell as Bush.. Kerry also has never been in the presidents shoes.. so does kerry know what will happen? Or is he just making fake promises?

I will say that John Kerry is giving the American people many reasons why four more years of Bush is not good.. Also Kerry is Pro-Choice in many ways, and I like this.. but does Kerry's anti-war believes of the 70's matter today in a time of war?

Is Kerry just making scare-tatics? Or is he really the better choice?

and Nader, he won't win.. and if he did I hate to think how Taxes would shoot sky high, and no telling what he thoughts are on half these issues..

Tomorrow night is election night, and I think that Kerry will win.. and if you look at the way things are going in Iraq and on the homfront that might not be a bad choice. Like I have heard many say "Kerry can't be worse than Bush" and that I do agree with.
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Old 11-02-2004, 12:11 AM
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Hey Steverino,
# # How's the NAYN going, I haven't heard much about it since I wrote that part of the article for it.
# # # Well, I hope we don't have the chance to find out if Kerry would do anything in office.
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Old 11-02-2004, 12:39 AM
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Hey Tim, The net is still not getting any activity, but I hope to be around this friday to run the net, and I hope to pull in some more check-ins.. The back-up net control was not hearing anybody when he was running the past few nets..

You said you hope we don't have the chance to find out if Kerry would do anything in officce, I say I hope we don't have to find out what another four years of Bush may bring..

On the BPL Issue.. Kerry may not stop BPL if elected, but he can appoint a new FCC Chairman..
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Quote[/b] (KD5OWO @ Oct. 31 2004,18:39)]On the BPL Issue.. Kerry may not stop BPL if elected, but he can appoint a new FCC Chairman..
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Old 11-02-2004, 01:31 AM
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Bummer.. the picture you posted did not show up... maybe you could post the link directly to the picture...
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Steve,

Odd that you should mention the Iraqi war. There are still a lot of people who think Kerry is going to end it within 6 months, as he was saying earlier in the campaign. However, he sounds almost identical to Bush these days when he talks about being in it for the longer haul. I don't think we will see the end of it anytime soon with either guy.

The confusion comes from the anti war stance he took on in order to out gun Howard Dean on the war issue, and his utterings of "I am the anti war candidate". You do not hear him saying it now.

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Odd that you should mention the Iraqi war. There are still a lot of people who think Kerry is going to end it within 6 months,
from my understanding on Kerry's postion for Iraqi.. He is goingt o keep the troups in it for anther 4yrs...and he well use it to get re-elected maybe he flip flop again
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Bravo to OWO for the post. Keep thinking and observing and studying. Remember that very little of what you are being exposed to by the media is not biased if not outright false. They will point to the one kernel of truth that they buried in the rest of the misleading statements, to keep them out of hot water for lying.
For instance, what do you know, or what were you taught about the phrase "Read my lips"? President Bush (the elder) campaigned using that phrase. "Read my lips, no new taxes". Every day after he won, the TV news headlines was Bush has to raise taxes. Bush has to raise taxes now. This proves that Bush has to raise taxes. 3 years he held steadfast, no new taxes. Then the numbers forced him to raise taxes. So what is his legacy that you were taught? Bush didn't keep his word, he raised taxes. But after 3 years of every day being hounded by Dan Rather, Peter Jennings and the like.
Keep studying for the real story, not the one that the TV wants to tell you. No WMD my ___! They were there, but 12 years is a long time to move them or hide them in the sand. But you are being told there weren't any.
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Sadam had WMD Sadam used them on the Kurds
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Quote[/b] ]The war on Terror- can we win a war against extremists?
When I was a little younger than you are now, terrorists were blowing up airliners, hijacking planes and cruise ships, and the like. Hardly a month went by without something happening that was due to a terrorist attack.

Ronald Regan warned the nations harboring terrorists that we would strike if the terror continued. Back then Lybia was the terrorist stomping ground. Gadaffi thumbed his nose at the USA and the terror continued. European nations were hesitant to do anything, so we acted alone. The USA bombed Lybia. Gadaffi's palace was hit and some of his family members were killed.

The terror attacks pretty much stopped for some time after we did that. They knew that Reagan meant business and they did not want to chance the bullseye moving to their turf. The same countries that oppose the war now are the same ones who opposed strikes back then (France would not let our warplanes fly over thier airspace when we attacked Lybia).

Now we have Bush. He could be doing the same thing, but he has let politics get in the way. He has fallen into the deadly trap of war by popular opinion. If we would strike fast and hard, the nations that harbor terrorists would hand them over. Instead, we try and be politically correct and 'sensitive'. The result is what you see now.

Some folks did not like Ronald Reagan, but you knew where he stood and he would not hesitate to use military force when necessary.
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