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Old 11-05-2009, 03:02 AM
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Default can you trust hams??

well recently i sold a kenwood ts-430s to what i thought was a friend of mine
we agreed on a price and met up and we traded some stuff and cash well he gave me the trade equipment and $100 said he would pay me the following friday well 3 months later i found out that he has moved to mt.Vernon oh ,
so i guess lesson learned he still ows me $175.00 and now for the point in this post be ware of N5LED Dennis will not pay do not extend credit to him cash up front or no deal ... and if any one knows him or see's him tell him thanks for taking stuff from my 8 month old lil girl that money was needed for her formula etc.. that was the only reson i sold the rig so any way 73 to all the honest hams out there .. KCŘEUJ
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Old 11-05-2009, 03:08 AM
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Hams, in my experience, are more trustworthy -- at least when dealing with fellow hams -- than most of the population.

A license, however, does not turn one into Mother Theresa.

As my grandfather (K7QMA, SK), always said. "Trust everybody, but cut the cards."

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Old 11-05-2009, 03:11 AM
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I don't trust anyone when it comes to money, except my wife.
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Old 11-05-2009, 03:12 AM
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Never trust someone you are paying.

Never trust someone who is trying to separate you from your goods.

Never trust the guys a daughter brings home.

The ham ranks are filled with the same percentage of thieves and scam artists as the population as a whole.
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Old 11-05-2009, 07:19 AM
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It has been said that Hams represent a cross section of society. I don't doubt it a bit.

So it's good to have a dog.

I have a mini pin who's not terribly smart, but I can look at the hair on his back and tell who's good and who's bad.
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Old 11-05-2009, 01:26 PM
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A callsign (real or not) is no guarantee of honesty, (or ethics) and to think so is a bit naive. Keep all deals on a "BUSINESS ONLY" basis. In all reality, you should have pursued the issue on a frequent basis (daily if necessary) when the deal was going sour.
Sad to say, I don't feel "licensees" are inherently more honest (or less dishonest) than the general public. Most ARE honest, but the small percentage that are not can cause endless grief.
Sorry for your loss, but it may be a hopeless cause, unless you resort to legal means. It's also sad that this was with a person you had considered a "friend."
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Old 11-05-2009, 01:42 PM
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I've wheeled and dealed (Misspelled but rhymes better) with more then 100 hams (Guestimate) in the past 6 years. I've not met a dishonest ham yet.

What sucks in your case is this guy was a friend and knew your situation. At some point the words, "Screw Him" crossed his mind. The guy who would screw a friend in need is no friend.
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Old 11-05-2009, 01:59 PM
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Hmmm.. I wonder if the ham committing the offense ran out of money and was embarrased about it. Hoping the problem will just go away.

Nope...

He is a thief.. plain and simple

I have dealt with contractors who were like that.

I could never take someone's money... or stuff... and I only borrow money from a bank.

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Old 11-05-2009, 02:01 PM
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The Bible says something like: "Neither a borrower or a lender be."

My favorite phrase is:

In God we trust.
All others pay cash.


And there you have it.

No ticket, no laundry.
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Old 11-05-2009, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by KG4ZPN View Post
The Bible says something like: "Neither a borrower or a lender be."

My favorite phrase is:

In God we trust.
All others pay cash.


And there you have it.

No ticket, no laundry.
Methinks you confuse moral and legal considerations. The biblical quote is just that, and a serious, and often proper admonition for moral and ethical conduct; the other is merely a colliquial slogan that expresses a business policy, which has no moral or ethical considerations, save for a business practice, (which is perfectly valid for an individual business) but the last is merely a legal protection, and may well not be morally justifiable.

Be that as it may, it's a sad commentary when a purported "friend" refuses to pay an amount which had been agreed upon previously, receives the equipment, and "disappears."
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