Win XP Service Packs

WA9SVD · #1 11-07-2009, 03:14 PM

I've just had to use a set of recovery disks for XP Pro on an IBM ThinkPad. Unfortunately, it's XP Pro prior to SP1!

Were the SP1 upgrades/updates included on the SP2 CD, or do I have to try to upload updates before I use the SP2 disk? (And for that matter, is there any chance SP1 and SP2 are included on the SP3 CD?)

KE0MD · #2 11-07-2009, 03:39 PM

All you need is the service pack 3 installer - it includes everything in SP1 and SP2. Then you'll also apply any updates since SP3 was released.

Jeremy, N0YAX - Former MS Support Weenie

WA9SVD · #3 11-07-2009, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by N0YAX

All you need is the service pack 3 installer - it includes everything in SP1 and SP2. Then you'll also apply any updates since SP3 was released.

Jeremy, N0YAX - Former MS Support Weenie

Thanks for the response. I have the "Official" SP-3 CD from Microshaft. It will save a lot of time just having to use that rather than going through the SP's one by one.

WA9SVD · #4 11-08-2009, 12:37 AM

UPDATE (or Upchuck?)

I have the official Service Pack 2 and Service Pack 3 CD's direct from Microshaft.

This is on a recovered IBM ThinkPad with WinXP Pro, PRIOR to Service Pack 1.

When I tried to install direct from the SP3 CD, after about 8 minutes of trundling to read, extract, and expand a gazillion files, the "installer" came up with the notification that XP with at least SP1 was required to allow it to function and it could not continue.

Now that I've tried the SP2 CD, it took about 8 minutes to read and expand files, and installed in about another 45 minutes.

So I am led to believe that the SP2 disk (which was widely distributed for free by Microsoft) did indeed include the original SP1 update files as well as SP2 updates, but the Service Pack 3 CD only had the unique SP2 and SP3 files.
SP3 took about 5 minutes to read and extract files, and about another 45 minutes o install.

KI6ZIF · #5 11-08-2009, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by WA9SVD

SP3 took about 5 minutes to read and extract files, and about another 45 minutes o install.

You didn't have a FULL SP3 cd then. You had an Update CD.

The FULL SP3 cd, that was available to corporate and developers, is a FULL SP3 package.

WA9SVD · #6 11-08-2009, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by KI6ZIF

You didn't have a FULL SP3 cd then. You had an Update CD.

The FULL SP3 cd, that was available to corporate and developers, is a FULL SP3 package.

Call it what YOU will, it was purchased from Microshaft, entitled "Windows XP Service Pack 3" Part # X14-60166-02. There's NO MENTION of it being an "upgrade" CD, nor was it represented as such when offered for sale by Mr. Gates' Company.
Or did MS misrepresent what they were selling to users? (I believe the SP3 CD is still available from MS.)

KF7AYS · #7 11-08-2009, 11:24 AM

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AC0FP · #8 11-09-2009, 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by WA9SVD

Call it what YOU will, it was purchased from Microshaft, entitled "Windows XP Service Pack 3" Part # X14-60166-02. There's NO MENTION of it being an "upgrade" CD, nor was it represented as such when offered for sale by Mr. Gates' Company.
Or did MS misrepresent what they were selling to users? (I believe the SP3 CD is still available from MS.)

Larry,

Be careful if you have a HP computer with a AMD processor! MS service pack 3 crashes some XP computer operating systems. The only recourse after the crash is to go to a previous restore point or reinstall XP. It has something to do with service pack 3 changing a file name require to access the XP windows program.

The HP website has a fix for the problem if your using one of their AMD systems!

73,
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N4PRT · #9 11-09-2009, 03:25 AM

The smartest thing to do is make a new XP disk that includes the SP3 updates in a single install version. How to convert old XP to the latest version, and save an hour on an install? Easy!

MS treats system administrators much nicer than they do ordinary users. There are a lot of tools that most folks will never hear about--and one of those is called slipstreaming--which is nothing more than updating an install disk and creating a new more current version. Old XP to XP Service Pack 3 ready to install--and not only is it faster on the install, it takes up less disk space than installing XP and then later installing the Service Pack.

Instructions for how to accomplish this miracle are here:

http://www.howtohaven.com/system/sli...e-pack-3.shtml

KJ4HMO · #10 11-09-2009, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by N4PRT

The smartest thing to do is make a new XP disk that includes the SP3 updates in a single install version. How to convert old XP to the latest version, and save an hour on an install? Easy!

MS treats system administrators much nicer than they do ordinary users. There are a lot of tools that most folks will never hear about--and one of those is called slipstreaming--which is nothing more than updating an install disk and creating a new more current version. Old XP to XP Service Pack 3 ready to install--and not only is it faster on the install, it takes up less disk space than installing XP and then later installing the Service Pack.

Instructions for how to accomplish this miracle are here:

http://www.howtohaven.com/system/sli...e-pack-3.shtml

A cd with SP3 slipstreamed into it will save a lot of time on future installs. even though we use Ghost to push out images we keep a slipstreamed copy of XP around (which also contains many of the customizations we do to our windows installs) just in case we need to create a new image from scratch for any reason.