Originally Posted by [b
You should be able to use the current question pool to determine what, if anything, in the old study guide has changed. There may be some rule changes but the electronics will be the same as your copy is only one edition old. Really, don't waste your money on a new book. One edition out of date isn't going to make a difference.
I found the handbook quite useful for studying the electronics. It's presented in a linear format. I first worked through all of chapter four "Electrical Fundamentals", before using the questions themselves as a self test of that knowledge. I didn't find it necessary to study the more general radio questions as that material has been embedded for years. I'm talking about almost anything that uses block diagrams or requires general understanding of how a typical amateur transmitter/receiver is organized.
I'll tell you straight out that for studying the regulations the questions themselves are a good starting point. From there you can use the rules and regs that are on line.
If the study guide that you have covers the electronics fairly well then you'll be in fine shape. In fact, you're better off spending that $20 on an older copy of either the handbook, the antenna handbook, the operating guide, or a copy of either Solid state design for the radio amateur, Experimental Methods in RF design, or Practical RF design manual.
"Whoa, take it easy on me. You don't even know me man.
Did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed today?"
Yes I did ! ! ! And I was further provoked by another post that kept going on and on like some kind of bad dream, insisting that us OFs recite a bunch of questions and answers that were found on tests we took 25 or more years ago!
My comments were not meant to be directed at you, specifically, so much as to anyone who wishes to take the "easy way out" and just expend the least amount of effort to get by as is necessary.
Forgive me if I stepped on a few toes, carelessly. I just don't want to see anyone ( including you ) think that they can get more than a minimal amount of enjoyment from their avocation, without expending more than a minimal amount of effort in trying to understand what they are undertaking!
Best 73, and I hope you do well and derive great pleasure from ham radio.
Ham Radio, Amateur Astronomy, and Model Airplanes - what better way to spend some time!
No time is ever wasted that is spent LEARNING something !
I just logged you at 0150 UTC 8-1-06 on 20 meters CW. I recognized the call when I saw this thread you started. Your fist was great copy on my end, it's just the band was going South on us and I was having a hard time hearing you.
I skimmed over this thread and I want to say that everyone is right in that they are encouraging you to study the Extra material to actually LEARN it rather than using rote memorization. But I am not sure why the assumption was made that you DIDn't intend to learn it. By your original question, you sounded like you were looking for a current study guide to LEARN by rather than relying on the question pool. That is a good move. Like was pointed out, theory hasn't changed much if at all in the past 50 years, but I understand the desire to have updated regulations, and yes, some new digital mode information is on the test that might not be in older guides. In order to study and LEARN about the newer concepts, aquiring a newer study guide might not be a bad idea.
Hey everyone else, believe it or not, there are a lot of us younger guys out here thirsty to LEARN about radio and not be an appliance operator. I have not only READ my study guides in getting my privelages but I have purchased and read 5 different ARRL publications including the Antenna Handbook and operating handbook and I have a personal library of 20 different electronics related books. I may only know 1/10th of what some of you know, but I am here to learn and expand. I just simply wish that the assumption weren't that people like me are here for a free ride. Sometimes I think this is just history repeating itself in the way today's older hams were treated when they first entered the hobby.
I am sincere here...Give us a little slack before you make assumptions. I've been posting here for a year about amateur radio and I doubt anyone can accuse me of being a slouch.
This guy here, according to the random QSO I just had with him, was QRT for a long time and just rekindled his interest in the hobby. Don't drive him off with flame and pitchforks before he gets a chance to get his feet wet again!
My favorite mode? Morse, of course.
I agree with you, but it is hard to recommend anything different than what is available from arrl or other normal study guides.
I was studying electronics since I was 8 years old, and I am 64 now, I have been in so many different schools to study electronics, since I had 4 years of it in high school, I have a hard time remembering them all, every company I have worked for all my life has sent me to school for further training, some I actually knew more than the instructor did, but what can I say to someone wanting to learn, based on my experience is impossible.
its not something one can learn with just a few weeks of studying a single book, at one time my library contained over 30 different text books and reference manuals.
I think I have forgotten more than some will ever learn.
and a study guide just won't cut it.
I only wish I could find some body that really wants to learn something so I could teach them all I know, and give them all my shop equipment before I die.
so far I have not found anyone.