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The newest Extra study guide is the eighth edition and I own the seventh edition. Is the material the same? If it is I can just print out a current question pool from arrl.
73,
Jason
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I don't know one edition from the other, but somewhere it should have the date after which it is intended to be used. The current Extra pool will have the words For use on and after July 1, 2002. If it says anything else, DO NOT USE IT!
Scott NĜIU
73,
de Scott NĜIU
Why do you have to 'put your two cents in'... but it's only a 'penny for your thoughts'?
Where's that extra penny going to?
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 Originally Posted by [b
Quote[/b] (n0iu @ July 23 2006,12:11)]I don't know one edition from the other, but somewhere it should have the date after which it is intended to be used. The current Extra pool will have the words For use on and after July 1, 2002. If it says anything else, DO NOT USE IT!
Scott NĜIU
why not ?
if you know the material, it would not matter which question pool is used at all.
but I suppose if you do not know the material, it could make a difference.
W5YI/VEC
SKCC 2280
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Thanks for the reply.
I plan on using the current question pool directly from arrl.
What I need to know is if the material in the study guide has changed since the last edition or if it is the same. I guess it would be easier to just fork the $20 and buy the new edition and not worry about it.
I made the mistake of buying this study book used online but forgot to verify what edition it was.
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I remember the '68 ARRL guide for the Extra.
It was one paragraph at the end of the General guide.
It said.
"Know your stuff".
It then said to use standard electronic engineering texts.
They were beyond my ability, so I had to take a class that taught the material in condensed form.
No "Study Questions with Answers" existed.
"Clear intent is the best predictor of experience"
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Originally Posted by [b
Quote[/b] (wa9cwx @ July 23 2006,13:52)]I remember the '68 ARRL guide for the Extra.
It was one paragraph at the end of the General guide.
It said.
"Know your stuff".
It then said to use standard electronic engineering texts.
They were beyond my ability, so I had to take a class that taught the material in condensed form.
No "Study Questions with Answers" existed.
if I remember correctly, there was several books that had questions and answers study guide for the 2nd class commercial radiotelephone ticket, that is what I used as the material was the same but the rules and reg's were different.
W5YI/VEC
SKCC 2280
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It may have changed a little, but not enough to buy another manual I don't think. I used outdated manuals to study for my technician test. When I took the test the novice and advanced classes had been removed. The manuals still talked about those classes and about morse tests higher than 5 wpm. Really wasn't a problem.
Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty.
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Jason, it just makes sense to me that if you understood the material, its theory and application, and the rules and regulations covering amateur radio, it really wouldn't make any difference what study guide you were using. You should be able to figure out which answer was correct out of the choices given on any test.
However, if you are trying to pass the test strictly by rote, and want to have the exact questions and the exact answers as furnished from the exam question pool, then you will have to spend your money and get "the latest and greatest".
However, I feel sorry for you if that is the only way you are going to be able to pass the tests.
In my books, a guy ( or gal ) who strictly answers the test questions by recalling the exact answers as they were spoonfed to him/her from a study guide is hardly any better than the monkey who is taught to push the button when it lights up!
Sure, you might be able to answer the questions in your sleep, but do you really, honestly understand the theory behind the answers? Many do not. That is why we have Extra Class license holders who do not have the foggiest notion about how to put up a dipole for the 20 meter band! Not to mention some of the off-the-wall answers that are posted here by people who's only qualification is the fact that they have an Extra Class ham ticket on which the ink is still wet, and NO IDEA of what they are really saying !
Perhaps my posts tonight are a bit combative in nature, but it does get a bit tiring to see so many trying to get so far with so little actual knowledge of the avocation. ( sorry Winston - poor paraphrase, I'm sure ! )
Well, if you delve into the theory deeper than some of your contemporaries, I will take my hat off to you. But if you just try to "get by", you will not be earning my respect.
73, ( hopefully ) Jim
Ham Radio, Amateur Astronomy, and Model Airplanes - what better way to spend some time!
No time is ever wasted that is spent LEARNING something ! 
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The material is the SAME. There will be some minor updates about rules and regs taht have changed recently. The questions MAY be a bit different (such as: "what's the current in a 10 Ohm resistor connected across a 10 Volt voltage source?" vs. "What's the current through a 20 Ohm resistor connected to a 20 Volt source?)
If you know the material, you have it "made in athe shade." If you just want to memorize every possible question and it's correct answer, then spring for a new license "manual."
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Originally Posted by [b
Quote[/b] (AG3Y @ July 23 2006,20:24)]Jason, it just makes sense to me that if you understood the material, its theory and application, and the rules and regulations covering amateur radio, it really wouldn't make any difference what study guide you were using. #You should be able to figure out which answer was correct out of the choices given on any test.
However, if you are trying to pass the test strictly by rote, and want to have the exact questions and the exact answers as furnished from the exam question pool, then you will have to spend your money and get "the latest and greatest". #
However, I feel sorry for you if that is the only way you are going to be able to pass the tests. #
In my books, a guy ( or gal ) who strictly answers the test questions by recalling the exact answers as they were spoonfed to him/her from a study guide is hardly any better than the monkey who is taught to push the button when it lights up!
Sure, you might be able to answer the questions in your sleep, but do you really, honestly understand the theory behind the answers? #Many do not. #That is why we have Extra Class license holders who do not have the foggiest notion about how to put up a dipole for the 20 meter band! #Not to mention some of the off-the-wall answers that are posted here by people who's only qualification is the fact that they have an Extra Class ham ticket on which the ink is still wet, and NO IDEA of what they are really saying !
Perhaps my posts tonight are a bit combative in nature, but it does get a bit tiring to see so many trying to get so far with so little actual knowledge of the avocation. #( sorry Winston - poor paraphrase, I'm sure ! )
Well, if you delve into the theory deeper than some of your contemporaries, I will take my hat off to you. #But if you just try to "get by", you will not be earning my respect.
73, ( hopefully ) #Jim
Whoa, take it easy on me. You don't even know me man.
Did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed today?
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