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    Quote Originally Posted by W6UV View Post
    If all you need is a receiver (as opposed to a transceiver), then I'll suggest a Perseus:
    Another great rig! Once you go SDR, you'll never go back to "old skool"!
    vy 73, de frank, k2ncc

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    Drake. Silly 10 character minimum...
    73,CBM DOS V2,00,00

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    The R-8 and R-5000 both seem to have about the same numbers according to Sherwood Engineering tests:

    Device
    Under Test
    Noise
    Floor
    (dBm)
    AGC
    Thrshld
    (uV)
    dB 100kHz
    Blocking
    (dB)
    Sensitivity
    (uV)
    LO Noise
    (dBc/Hz)
    Spacing
    kHz
    Front End
    Selectivity
    Filter
    Ultimate
    (dB)
    Dynamic Range
    Wide Spaced
    (dB)
    kHz Dynamic Range
    Narrow Spaced
    (dB)
    kHz

    Kenwood
    R-5000
    -131a 0.4 3 134 0.2 120 10 C 0.5 Octave 80f 86 20 65 5

    Drake
    R-8
    -128
    -131ab
    0.6
    0.3
    3 130 0.25
    0.18b
    115 10 C 0.5 Octave 75f 90
    85b
    20 71 5




    Both being very far down the list.

    The Flex 1500 and Perseus however are noticeably higher on the list:

    FlexRadio Systems
    FLEX-1500
    -112to-116
    -120to-129b
    -121to-136b1
    3.1
    1.0b
    0.4b1
    3 108 2.8
    1.4b
    0.3b1
    131 10 B Band Pass 95 88 20 88 2

    Perseus -123
    -125b
    0.15
    0.1b
    3 125 0.8
    0.6b
    147 10 B Band Pass 109f 99 20 99 2
    vy 73, de frank, k2ncc

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    Well, that didn't paste nearly as well as I planned. See the link above for something better laid out!
    vy 73, de frank, k2ncc

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    Why not buy the best receiver out there the Elecraft KX3 $999 factory built look at the Sherwood Reports it's on the top. The best part NO COMPUTER needed but one can be used and upgrades are coming on a steady basis the only option you would need is the Pass Band Tuning for every band I use mine daily.
    73 de Fred N0AZZ

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    Quote Originally Posted by N0AZZ View Post
    Why not buy the best receiver out there the Elecraft KX3...
    Another great SDR. Assemble it yourself and save a hundred bucks.

    If you listen to anything other than voice, CW, RTTY or PSK, or want CAT control, it still requires a computer.
    vy 73, de frank, k2ncc

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    Quote Originally Posted by K2NCC View Post
    Another great SDR. Assemble it yourself and save a hundred bucks.

    If you listen to anything other than voice, CW, RTTY or PSK, or want CAT control, it still requires a computer.
    Your correct for those modes my bad, but it is an SDR but is a standalone not like a Flex is what I ment to say. Before I bought the KX3 I used my K3 for SWL and thought it was great compared to my Yaesu FR-101 loaded I had been using since I sold my Sony CRF-320. But the KX3 is a whole lot better for several reasons more compact, has a better receiver(but I really can't tell) than my loaded K3 but $5000+ for it. The KX3 is the best QRP radio as well has a built-in tuner and can run for hours a lot of them on receive with the internal batteries or any 12v source and any antenna you wish the tuner does very well at least a 10:1 or better internal one.

    I used to cuss the Dammed "Elecraft Cheerleaders" when I had all Icom, Yaesu and all my other things. Now after owing a bunch of the Elecraft gear I know what they always yapping about and most all was true. I still have some that object to some of my posts about other equipment like the 5000 features that I liked better, but when the owner of the company comes on and agrees with me that tells you a lot about the company itself.
    73 de Fred N0AZZ

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    Quote Originally Posted by KB4MNG View Post
    Very smart! I had not even thought about the flex. No brainer....
    Just make sure you have a computer with enough horsepower to run it.
    When it's time, it's time, and it maybe sooner than you think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AF6LJ View Post
    Just make sure you have a computer with enough horsepower to run it.
    Very true. Especially if you're a multi-tasker and it's all on one machine. But with the $500 you save off your $1000 limit (Flex 1500 used for around half that), you can upgrade other things if needed. Any computer made in the last three or four years should be fine.

    I've used and owned a new-to-me radio just about every year I've been in the hobby, and knowing what I know now, I'll never own anything but a software-defined HF rig.


    My birthday's coming up soon, in case anyone wants to know what's on my wish-list:

    Flex6000_pr4927_1.jpg

    (Hasn't been rated by Sherwood yet that I know of, but I'd bet it'll trump the rest of the list.)
    vy 73, de frank, k2ncc

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