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  1. #1
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    Default almost a stupid question 220/1.25m

    im looking at buying a wouxun 2m /1.25m(220mhz) ht dual band

    how is 220-225mhz granted i could get it in 2m/70cm i am just not sure about 220 as i do not have any 220 equipment

    thanks
    Bobby D./KG4QGK

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    Quote Originally Posted by KG4QGK View Post
    im looking at buying a wouxun 2m /1.25m(220mhz) ht dual band

    how is 220-225mhz granted i could get it in 2m/70cm i am just not sure about 220 as i do not have any 220 equipment

    thanks
    Bobby D./KG4QGK
    You may want to check repeaters in your area.

    220mhz is a waste around here, for repeater use.

    Depends on what you plan to use it for.
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    QGK:

    You might want to check 47 CFR Part 97 Section 97.301(a). The 220 MHz to 222 MHz segment was removed from amateur radio service decades ago. The band is now 222.0 MHz to 225.0 MHz with the segment 219.0 to 220.0 MHz being limited by 47 CFR Part 97 Section 97.303(l)(1) which reads as follows:

    (1) Use is restricted to amateur stations participating as forwarding stations in fixed point-to-point digital message forwarding systems, including intercity packet backbone networks. It is not available for other purposes.

    Glen, K9STH

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    In the NYC and NNJ area, the 220 mhz band is pretty full. All these repeater were actually heard or worked. Hey Glen, all these repeaters were heard or worked on my ICOM 37A. Remember them? I have 2 of em and it goes to 220mhz.

    223.480 PACKET LINK PACKET LINK PACKET LINK PACKET LINK
    223.560 PACKET LINK PACKET LINK PACKET LINK PACKET LINK
    223.640 - 1.6 Megahertz ??? Stormville, NY AA2JL
    223.780 - 1.6 Megahertz 110.9 - 15 Washington, NJ WC2EM
    223.800 - 1.6 Megahertz 107.2 - 14 Harriman, NY WA2LVY
    223.820 - 1.6 Megahertz 114.8 Rockland County, NY N2ACF
    223.880 - 1.6 Megahertz Any/None Cedar Grove, NJ KR2I
    223.900 - 1.6 Megahertz 141.3 - 22 New York City, NY KD2TN
    223.920 - 1.6 Megahertz Any/None Mt. Beacon, NY W2GIO
    223.940 - 1.6 Megahertz 107.2 - 14 New York City, NY WA2ZLB
    223.960 - 1.6 Megahertz Any/None Warren, NJ K2ETS
    223.960 - 1.6 Megahertz W1QI
    223.980 - 1.6 Megahertz 141.3 - 22 New York City, NY KB2RQE/KB2PRV
    224.000 - 1.6 Megahertz Any Warrenville, NJ K2PM
    224.020 - 1.6 Megahertz 136.5 Carmel, NY KC2CWT
    224.060 - 1.6 Megahertz 107.2 - 14 Nutley, NJ (Hoffman LaRoche Plant) K2EE
    224.100 - 1.6 Megahertz Any/None Mt. Greylock, MA
    224.200 - 1.6 Megahertz 131.8 - 20 Union City, NJ (Spanish) KD2VN
    224.220 - 1.6 Megahertz 74.4 - 3 South Orange, NJ KE2TT
    224.240 - 1.6 Megahertz 107.2 - 14 Alpine, NJ W2QAQ
    224.320 - 1.6 Megahertz 77.0 - 4 Warren, CT NA1RA
    224.340 - 1.6 Megahertz 136.5 - 21 New York City, NY N2ROW
    224.360 - 1.6 Megahertz CSQ Clifton, NJ KB2N
    224.380 - 1.6 Megahertz 114.8 - 16 Tuckahoe, NY WA2MLG
    224.400 - 1.6 Megahertz 114.8 - 16 Valhalla, NY WB2ZII
    224.440 - 1.6 Megahertz 151.4 New York City, NJ NY4Z
    224.460 - 1.6 Megahertz 141.3 - 22 New York City, NY N2XBA
    224.480 - 1.6 Megahertz Any/None Verona, NJ K2DEE
    224.500 - 1.6 Megahertz 110.0 - 15 Newton, NJ W2LV
    224.560 - 1.6 Megahertz 141.3 - 22 New Brunswick, NJ KA2AHS
    224.580 - 1.6 Megahertz Any/None Wurstboro, NY W2FLA
    224.600 - 1.6 Megahertz Any/None Brooklyn, NY W2SN
    224.620 - 1.6 Megahertz 107.2 - 14 Randolph, NJ WA2EPI
    224.640 - 1.6 Megahertz 151.4 - 24 Martinsville, NJ N2ZAV
    224.660 - 1.6 Megahertz 127.3 - 19 New York City, NY WA2HDE
    224.700 - 1.6 Megahertz Any/None Mahopac, NY NY4Z (Linked to 440.600)
    224.780 - 1.6 Megahertz 123.0 - 18 South Amboy, NJ NE2E
    224.800 - 1.6 Megahertz 141.3 - 22 New York City, NY KQ2H
    224.840 - 1.6 Megahertz 141.3 - 22 Wanaque, NJ W2PQG
    223.920 - 1.6 Megahertz 110.9 - 15 Washington, NJ WC2EM
    224.900 - 1.6 Megahertz WB2HWW
    224.940 - 1.6 Megahertz 107.2 - 14 Morristown, NJ WS2Q
    224.980 - 1.6 Megahertz 107.2 - 14 Alpine, NJ W2VH
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    I was active on 224 MHz for many years when A club I was in put up a semi Home Brew repeater, I was involved in getting a site on a building at the highest elevation in Wayne county, MI. You could get into the repeater from 70 miles away with a 10 W mobile.
    The club bought a bunch of mobile radios from Clegg on a club special price.
    The activity has dropped considerably in the last few decades here. Many of those regulars on 224 are now SK.
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    Wikipedia gives you that introduction education, you asked for.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1.25-meter_band

    BAND PLANS
    http://www.arrl.org/band-plan-1/

    2005 eHam.net article
    http://www.eham.net/articles/10600

    Georgia directory for 222 MHz -- KS4QA has a 222 MHz repeater on Lookout Mountain
    http://pm.tinymicros.com/mediawiki/i..._GA_222Mhz.pdf
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    I did a quick look on the K5EHX web site using your call. It came up with 78 repeaters that cover your area, of which two are listed on 222. I am glad to see you wanting to explore 222 - it's a great band actually - but if you don't already have a rig for 440, that would be a higher priority that 222. There is also at least one 900 MHz repeater in your area, so you might want to consider the new Alinco HT that covers 222 and 902.

    I have one of the 2/222 Wouxuns that gathers dust until I take it to places where there are 222 repeaters. We have no 222 repeater near here, and no analog UHF machines.
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    For a while in my area packet was fairly active on 220. I don't think there are even anyactive repeaters around here anymore.


    There are a few 440machines around. I keep those frequencies in my scanner {mostly to fill the 200 frequencies it holds}


    The gang that owns the 440repeater has a Saturday morning net but that about all I really hear.


    The most active repeaters are on 144.


    A friend in Mt Carroll has a three band mobile set up at his house so he can use it to crossband repeat with the cute little 220 hand held to work the 2M repeater when he is running around his acreage.
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    In the San Francisco area, there's a fair bit of activity on 220. It's not nearly the level that it is on 2/440 but it's there.

    My Elmer and I had 220 and used it from time to time as our own point to point - not a lot of other users on some of the repeaters.

    Never had a mobile.
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    It depends on your particular area. In my area the 220 condor system of link repeaters are far more active than any of the repeaters on 2 meters or 440, with the exception of the win system. 220 is a great band with unique propagation. cheers.

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