Latest On Antenna Installations
This is a copy of the latest comm. between a person in the area where my cabin is located and my answer. If you assume I am angry, you are correct.
I am surprised of the objections to a perfectly legal and allowed project. I have inquired of the IMPOA board and the Building AND Planning
Committees of Park county and I am authorized to install an antenna. I hold the highest ham license available and have 37 years working in and teaching electronics with a strong background in RF (Radio Frequency).
I am restricted to 35 ft height by the Park County rules and only must have the base inspected (nothing else) if I put in a tower.
At the present time, I do not plan to put in a tower altho it is perfectly legal and allowed. Most likely I will have some type of wire antenna or a vertical antenna which essentially is just an aluminum tube. At the present time, I do not even own operable ham equipment although that will change in the near future.
There are Federal regulations (FCC PRBs) that state that Government agencies must "Reasonably Accomodate" in the installation of an antenna for Ham operation.
I believe it is completely within private property rights for me to be able to enjoy my hobby so long as I do not endanger anyone. If I were installing a 100 ft tower or or had a light on top of an antenna or installing something that would be a danger to others, I could understand this.
I would be willing to listen to any Indian Mountain resident as to how I could minimize the visual impact, but I would legally fight to the greatest of possibilities and resources the total elimination of my rights to enjoy my property and hobby which is not only allowed and sanctioned but encouraged by the Government.
I would appreciate it if you would research Ham Radio's many contributions to the advancement of the electronics fields AND to emergency communications. BTW, I am a Ham (Amateur) radio operator and NOT a CB (Citizens Band) operator.
Did I do something in the past to anger you?
> Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 10:46:52 -0500
> From: firstname.lastname@example.org
> To: RaymondParkII@msn.com
> Subject: antennas
> I just wanted to let you know that the word is out, that you want to put up an antenna on your
> property for ham radio operations. Currently there are a dozen people who have voiced their
> adamant objections to your proposed antenna. Bad news travels fast in a small tight knit
> community like Indian Mtn. The majority of us are up here to get away from the city lights,
> cell towers, antennas, and the like, all those things detract from the natural beauty that we
> all cherish.............
> Out of consideration and respect for your neighbors in Indian Mtn. we ask that you abandon this
> idea of putting up an antenna.
> Thank you
> Susan Stoval
I hate busybody neighbors.
Amazing they exist in more rural areas as much as they do anywhere else.
A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul.
-- George Bernard Shaw
You sir, are a gentleman! I applaud you on dealing courteously with pushy feminazi who thinks she can control the world.
As long as I was in good legal standing, I wouldn't even give them an answer.
The best antenna is the one you build yourself!
I had a similar situation and invited the neighbors over for coffee. The husband was okay with it but his xyl fretted over the view. She went to the legal beagles, I showed my license and installation and it became end of story except they built a "spite fence" which suited me just fine. My KT34A didn't complain either and all worked well for me.
I rx'd an Email fm the president of the HOA and he is requesting compromise. So, I prob won't put up a tower, prob will put up either a fan dipole or a vertical (not sure if I wish to do the necessary task of laying radials altho I do have 2 acres). By not disputing my statement about the covenants not sayng a word about antennas, I believe he is admitting that they can't block me. Those pine/cedar/aspen trees do sway a lot tho. The County rules would not apply with either a vertical of a dipole in trees so I have a bit of leeway there. Thanks Ray
Id then put up a 35' tower with a tribander and maybe a 40M add on kit. If the bitch dont like it tuff love.
Tell the HOA honcho that is YOUR compromise and the alternative is 2-3 35' towers with big monobanders on each plus a satellite array.
I second Carl's excellent nomination above.
Dear Ms. Stoval,
It seems apparent you are confused as to my stated intentions. I was not requesting your permission to install an antenna structure, but rather I was attempting to propose and discuss a resonable antenna installation for your consideration. Installing and erecting an antenna structure is already within my right and I am already permitted to do so by the proper authority governing this matter. Although, I do understand your stated wishes, you clearly don't have the authority to object in this matter.
This will serve as notification that I will be installing my antenna in the near future according to the permission that is granted to me as enacted in federal and state legislation. To be clear, I am merely offering you the opportunity to discuss any reasonable alternatives that would please the local community in which you are a servant. Therefore, installing no antenna at all is not an option for discussion or consideration at this time. However, if you would like to discuss any alternative arrangement that would have a more desirable or perhaps pleasing visual impact for the community in which you are serving, I am happy to offer you this opportunity for a limited time.
I trust this clarifies my position on the matter (Optional: - and now go eat crow bioch!) lol
Last edited by KC8VWM; 08-06-2012 at 05:45 PM.
73 de Charles - KC8VWM
North American QRP CW Club #3159, SKCC# 5752
It''s so easy to say, "I would do this or I would do THAT" when 'we' are not the one who would be living in the area. Doing what Ray has decided works best for HIM is the ultimate solution. Sure he could go all the way and install nearly any tower and array he might choose; then he would face the long drawn out consequences. Ray's a wise man and knows when to battle and when to simply enjoy his hobby.
Old Man Don / WD5JOY
I see you are talking for Ray with your OWN flower child response as Ray hasnt made a final decision yet that Ive read. Is that what YOU did?
Backing down to the point of having poor communications is NOT a reasonable compromise in the FCC's eyes.
A 35' tower and tribander is a minimum accomodation to the HOA. The ARRL also has a long list of ham attorneys who work gratis or at a very low rate should it reach that point. Just slapping that bitch down would be worth it if it was me. I wouldnt waste any time responding to her, ask any lawyer...it could actually hurt.
I was faced with a similar problem here 22 years ago because of one family 1/2 mile away thought they could control anyone they wanted since they had been here since 1896. They got the town on their side who I ignored by putting up the first tower which forced them to make the next move. While they were diddling with themselves I started the ball rolling to get PRB-1 read into state law plus another state law prohibiting towns and cities from taxing any amateur structure. End result is that I have 4 towers and the town was forced to refund all taxes paid as well as pay fees and costs since they went on record of having a personal vendetta. Some of the above was in a QST article since the NH Section Manager ran with it at the Statehose once I put him in touch with a state rep, high on the seniority list of the majority party, who was also a Honor Roll DXer. Both laws passed unanimously.
If I sound a bit hard ass for some its because I dont back down from my rights for any two bit politician or NIMBY ahole.