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    Default dxcc qsl rejection

    I recently had my cards checked by a card checker. One of my QSL's was for VO1AU/BY1RX which was my one and only QSO with China (Beijing). The card checker OK'd it, but when my online LOTW/dxcc sheet updated, I could see that there was no indication of my China QSL. I'm guessing it was not accepted? I was wondering what would disqualify it?

    Edit: I see a one other disqualified as well, 5N/LZ1QK.

    I guess I'll have to go obtain other QSL's / QSO's?
    Last edited by KB2FCV; 07-17-2012 at 02:59 PM.

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    Call ARRL DXCC desk and ask why they were rejected. My guess would be they were not registered or didn't have the proper paper work.
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    Sometimes they overlook a card or entry. You really need to check what you were credited with.

    In the past if I had a rejected card (only have ever had one rejected), when they sent me the cards back there was a summary that was with it and it would note the reject and mention why. "Shipboard operation" was the reason.
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    The most common reason for DXCC desk bouncing cards is "no documentation." This means that the station you worked did not submit proof of permission to operate (and in some cases, proof that you were actually on a particular entity).

    VO1AU/BY1RX - I don't see anything in the DX bulletins about him.

    5N/LZ1QK was rejected because his license was not valid. Something about the Nigerian authorities requiring membership in the local amateur radio society before the license is valid.

    In some cases the DXCC desk comes back and says that the operation is approved. Some of them after years - there was a Bangladesh operation which was just approved for DXCC credit recently (S21YD) which was QRV in 1994 and 1995. If the DXCC desk does approve an operation which you had rejected cards for, you can likely resubmit them at no charge or email Bill Moore, NC1L and he'll get your record updated.

    But you need to watch the DX bulletins... and in the case of 5N/LZ1QK, I doubt that it will be approved given that the Nigerian authorities themselves were involved.

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    Well, I got my DXCC award today. They pretty much said for the 5N/LZ1... no documentation received. As for the VO1AU/BY1RX, they said **Prefix/Country Mismatch. I think I need to have a call up to ARRL HQ and see if anything can be done or if I'll just have to try to work China / QSL again.

    Also, another weird thing. I had a few countries I added via LOTW about a month ago (separate from my initial "big/first" LOTW DXCC application). They show up as credited towards my DXCC online. I paid for those separately with my card. When I received my paper DXCC award credit slip today, I see those 5 countries aren't credited. In turn, I didn't receive my 250 sticker (shows me at 247) where as my online matrix shows me at 252. Not sure what's going on there..

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    Quote Originally Posted by KB2FCV View Post
    Well, I got my DXCC award today. They pretty much said for the 5N/LZ1... no documentation received. As for the VO1AU/BY1RX, they said **Prefix/Country Mismatch. I think I need to have a call up to ARRL HQ and see if anything can be done or if I'll just have to try to work China / QSL again.

    Also, another weird thing. I had a few countries I added via LOTW about a month ago (separate from my initial "big/first" LOTW DXCC application). They show up as credited towards my DXCC online. I paid for those separately with my card. When I received my paper DXCC award credit slip today, I see those 5 countries aren't credited. In turn, I didn't receive my 250 sticker (shows me at 247) where as my online matrix shows me at 252. Not sure what's going on there..

    Unless I haven't had enough coffee this AM, stating the call as "VO1AU/BY1RX" say that BY1RX was operating as VO1AU in Canada???? It is my understanding that where foreign hams using their foreign calls reciprocally, the operating position is usually the first half of the call while the operators licensed call is second half. Just as W1/G1ABC would be a call for a UK ham to indicate he is operating in the US / New England call area. An exception is like 'W5DQ/6' where I sign I'm in California even though I am licensed as a W6 ham in the FCC DB. This is required for some contests.

    Perhaps this is why you got the 'Prefix/Country Mismatch' error? I'd ask if this was the case and if so, just resubmit. The DXCC desk usually doesn't make correction on the fly unless it is readily obvious or you're there in person to explain and clarify.

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    The 9U7T DXpedtion also bounced, and repeated requests for documentation have produced no results. The Op was indeed there and worked all the world in good faith, but evidently the person who issued him a license was not authorized to do so. So the HQ rejected the QSLs of mine and everyone else who worked him. This is most disheartenning, as that is a really tough one to work and activity is very infrequent. As a DXCC Checker, I had another ham turn in that card, which I had to tell him "SORRY!!". We logged it into the application anyway (which will be rejected by HQ) on the chance that someday some good docs may be submitted and the card be made good.

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    Well, I had an email exchange with the ARRL DXCC admins today and all is well. The mismatch in the LOTW DXCC credit was fixed (my 250 sticker is on the way, yay!). Also, they asked me to send them a scan of the VO1AU/BY1RX card and it turns out there was a limitation on the length of callsign in the computer system. The card was validated and credit issued . As for Nigeria, well, I'll either have to wait for that station to file documentation or I have a few other 5N QSO's in the log.. I'll just obtain another QSL.

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    5N7M is very active on the bands and you can paypal him for a QSL,

    he uploads his logs to Clublog as well.

    Keep an eye out for him.

    Trevor
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    Quote Originally Posted by KB2FCV View Post
    Well, I had an email exchange with the ARRL DXCC admins today and all is well. The mismatch in the LOTW DXCC credit was fixed (my 250 sticker is on the way, yay!). Also, they asked me to send them a scan of the VO1AU/BY1RX card and it turns out there was a limitation on the length of callsign in the computer system. The card was validated and credit issued . As for Nigeria, well, I'll either have to wait for that station to file documentation or I have a few other 5N QSO's in the log.. I'll just obtain another QSL.
    Congrats! "limitation on the length of callsign in the computer system" really seems like a serious issue since most ham calls can be up to 6 chars so 12 for two calls and another for the slash for 13 characters. Sounds like a Problem Report is due for the programmer to do some fixin'.

    Gene W5DQ
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    Circa 1921 : Mr. Felix Boizelle, New Orleans, Louisiana (SK)
    Circa 1923 : T.J.M. Daly, North Little Rock, Arkansas (assumed SK)
    Circa 1925 : Q. Vockrodt (assumed SK) and Frances O. Davis (SK),
    both of Cushing, Oklahoma. Call listed for both names.
    1926 - 1941 : Mr. Francis Owen Davis, Cushing, OK (SK)
    1947 - 1998 : Dr. Felix Boizelle, M.D., Baton Rouge, LA (SK)
    2000 - 2008 : Mr. Landon John (Jack) Brewer, Jr., Hatfield, AR (my Dad) (SK)
    2009 - onward : Gene Brewer, Ridgecrest, CA

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