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Thread: This is Why Motorcycle Riders Have a Bad Image and Also Why So Many are DEAD!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KF6ABU View Post
    Allowing vehicles to share a lane (lane splitting) is about the only good law ever passed in California.
    It's not a law in California. There is no law explicitly prohibiting it, so law enforcement allows it as long as it is not reckless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K2WH View Post
    Check out this video on Youtube; motorcycle rider 185mph. I would imagine the rider might think he is indestructable but I would say if he continues riding this way, he will not get much older. Click on the YouTube Video.

    http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2012/...ntcmp=features

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    Bill, just as with cars, you will always find an idiot on a bike.

    The fact is that your thread title (why so many are dead) is off the mark. Somewhere between 75%-85% of all motorcycle accidents and fatalities are the fault of a car driver. I won't post any links because a quick search will discover many sites supporting this.

    Was the biker in that video crazy? I sure think so, but I've seen and read of the same craziness on 4 wheels much more often than on a bike.

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    Riding a bike is inherently more dangerous than a cage. Driving in a small car is more dangerous that driving a big car. Driving a big car is more dangerous than driving a big truck. Driving a big truck is more dangerous than driving an M1 Abrams tank.

    Each has it consequences and rewards, and I believe that it's been determined that the leading cause of death is life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KI4NGN View Post
    It's not a law in California. There is no law explicitly prohibiting it, so law enforcement allows it as long as it is not reckless.
    *California, being contrary to every other state, and permitting lane sharing, is one of the only smart things it has ever done.*

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    Quote Originally Posted by KF6ABU View Post
    Allowing vehicles to share a lane (lane splitting) is about the only good law ever passed in California.
    Maybe there but think about a road that is already only a two lane where people park on both sides making so its hard for two cars to fit side by side and then a bike trying to squeeze between them. I have no issues with lane splitting when it is actually suitable to do so. Passing on the shoulder and sidewalks on the other hand is something that I find to be rather dangerous. That along with not stopping at lights, which seems really common here.

    In my time here (not long, just over three months) I have seen eight motorcycle accidents caused by rider negligence. Only one of which proved fatal, to my knowledge. The second one I saw would have won a Darwin award. Some guy too impatient to wait for a light crossed onto a sidewalk to avoid having to stop and found a lamp post...
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    It takes all sorts. As my freind above said, my bike wouldnt get that speed out the back of a Hercules!

    It is interesting though, that the bike culture of the USA is radically different from that of the UK, and different again in certain countries in Europe. In a way, cruisers (and this includes Harleys) are not on the radar for most riders. Sportsbikes (in the UK) are almost the norm, and its often ATGATT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KB3LAZ View Post
    Passing on the shoulder and sidewalks on the other hand is something that I find to be rather dangerous. That along with not stopping at lights, which seems really common here.
    Those are all very dangerous things to do, which shouldn't be done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2E0OZI View Post
    It takes all sorts. As my freind above said, my bike wouldnt get that speed out the back of a Hercules!

    It is interesting though, that the bike culture of the USA is radically different from that of the UK, and different again in certain countries in Europe. In a way, cruisers (and this includes Harleys) are not on the radar for most riders. Sportsbikes (in the UK) are almost the norm, and its often ATGATT.
    The norm here in Spain seems to be scooters. That along with 50cc and 125cc sport bike clones. The next most common would be sports bikes themselves. Particularly Honda CBR models. Then Harleys. Cruisers of other makes do not seem to be popular at all here. \

    What threw me for a loop was seeing quads on the road. This was common for me in my home town but we have a lot of dirt roads without traffic. To see them on the highway was an oddity for me. It still gets my attention now and again.
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    Most Harley riders would not behave as is the topic of this thread, and I believe that's because Harley riders tend to be in the more "mature" category of people. That's not to say that we don't have our crazies, but it's usually the young and inherently reckless who go in for the crotch rockets, that have that need for reckless speed and showing off.

    Our biggest problems are the cages, and I ride with the attitude that ever one of them is trying to kill me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KI4NGN View Post
    Most Harley riders would not behave as is the topic of this thread, and I believe that's because Harley riders tend to be in the more "mature" category of people. That's not to say that we don't have our crazies, but it's usually the young and inherently reckless who go in for the crotch rockets, that have that need for reckless speed and showing off.

    Our biggest problems are the cages, and I ride with the attitude that ever one of them is trying to kill me.
    Im one of those odd younger people. I dont care for speed. I do the limit, less if conditions require. I have always found a cruiser to be more comfortable as well. To each their own.

    In fact I am liking my 125, quite a change but it sure is good on the wallet and very easy to find a parking spot with.
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