try this. The end of your garage is shaped in a V already. Run the wires on the same plane as the roof line in the same V as the roof. If you want to hold it away from the siding you can get small lags that will screw in and hold the wire in sinsulated circles at the end of the lags. A 20 meter inverted v should be about 16.5 feet per leg and a 40 about 31 feet per leg.
Running the wire the same as the roof line will disguise it. I have built many inv V antenna's and the roof lines of most houses, garages, are good enough to get the impedance close to be able to use coaxial cable not ladder line. I think you try it and you will like it and no one will see it enough to complain.
John, may I suggest an S9 vertical. They are green fiberglass, and could blend in along next to your tree.
The S9 is very stealthy looking.
Are you allowed to put up wind sock poles - maybe in the back yard (in the shrubs) to decorate that space? Some of those are about 20ft tall. Put a wire up the middle and some radials at the base, maybe a tuner at the base (hidden) - and of course some type of windsock / catcher at the top. People living near the ocean and beaches love to have decorative things blowing in the wind....
G3TPW Cobwebb. 5 fullsize dipoles nested in a square 8ft per side. Get that up 25ft or more and you'll crack out.
Looks to me like you house is the highest thing on the property. Use it.
Someone has already mentioned the loop around the eaves of the house.
You could run an inverted vee along the ridgeline of the roof. Put it one inch below the peak on the side away from the HOA nazi.
That will give more length than anywhere else. You could just tuck it up under the edge of a run of shingles.
If you want just a single band ..... an end fed .... jpole for band of interest... basically laid on the roof ridge should work well.
Or ust an end fed random wire on the ridge fed against a good ground.
The best antenna is the one you build yourself!
I second the notion of a cobweb, although I prefer the G3TXQ version as the elements are single wires and easier to tune. As GVZ says, get it up 25 feet and you'll definitely crack out. See TXQ's website for an excellent tutorial (I will be posting pix also here in a few more days upon completion of my reinstallation at the new QTH).
Originally Posted by M0GVZ
How to get it to 25' in your situation? Easy; either use a telescoping mast with the cobweb at 15' (or whatever height just out of view behind the roof line) and raise it up higher at dusk---or put it on a 25' pole that is tilted over when not in use. While this will limit your activity to the hours of darkness you WILL work some seriously good DX with a cobweb! While I was adjusting mine at 8' above the ground last week I was hearing all sorts of strong/DX signals, including a 9A9, ZL and S57 stations on 20 meters.
Believe me, it will blow the doors off any vertical (although the S9 suggestion is certainly a good one, too) and you'll be amazed at how well such a compact antenna performs. I built a heavy-duty QRO version but even using two heftier 240FT-61 toroids, large PVC junction box for the balun and a thick aluminum mounting plate my 5-band-one-feedline-no-tuner-required cobweb weighs a grand total of 9 lbs, 6 oz!
It's a mere 8 feet square and would be very easy to put up and take down regularly (especially on a tilt over mast). You'd probably still be able to work decently with it nested at only 15' or so, too.
Best of luck to solving your antenna dilemna and I hope you give the 'web serious consideration. Oh, I almost forgot to tell you---a cobweb boasts 95% efficiency---probably the major factor in it's excellent performance/size ratio. No need for a rotator, either as it's omnidirectional, of course.
Do you use your fireplace? If not, design a telescoping antenna that comes straight up out of the chimney.
As for the neighbor who thinks you're a spy. Be sure to let him overhear you speak in a foreign language (preferably Russian, Chinese or Arabic) or listening to foreign broadcasts. Perhaps tune into a numbers station for a while
I was thinking the same thing. You could use some sort of ground mounted vertical behind your back patio /porch?. It looks like there is room for raidials and depending on height it would be obscured by the tree line.
Originally Posted by AB9TX
"If it aint broke don't fix it. "If you can't fix it get a bigger hammer."
What I also find curious is why someone who lives in restricted neighborhood chooses a hobby which is almost impossible to enjoy?
Originally Posted by N3JBH
If you read the thread carefully you will note that John, the OP, got into hamming after he moved into the restricted neighborhood.
Should none of our suggestions be implemented John could always operate portable or mobile and still achieve a great deal of enjoyment of our fine hobby.
What I'd do if I lived in his area is put up some stealthy dipoles or a long wire somewhere on public land (maybe on Mt. Tamalpais nearby) that could be easily reached for some great portable operations. This could also be a backup system for operating during daylight hours when the "up out of the chimney" or raised tilt-over antennas couldn't be deployed.
Another two cents worth from me and I look forward to hearing about what John ends up doing.