Another Rant! LOTW, I GIVE UP.

[K2WH]

Well guess what. I found my password that I scribbled down on a piece of paper. Yippy yes? Yippy no. LOTW still says my username or password is NG.

So for the 5th time, I have removed the LOTW software from my computer. I think I'll give it a rest.

K2WH

[WA4OTD]

Same for paper QSL, two people willing to lie can get around paper or LOTW. Only way I know of. Paper only one person can lie and print a foreign QSL, with LOTW, no real way one person can create QSLs so it is more secure. I've never heard of it happening, it's only a hobby.

Already told you how in that post. Two people agree on the QSO data - date, time, band, mode - then they both upload that fake QSO. The QSOs records match, and that generates a QSL.

LOTW has no way of knowing whether any QSO record is fake or erroneous or real. All it does is look for matches.

[K0SPN]

Oohh, I'll remember you. Thanks for your help.

Well, I didn't get any postcard! That file was sent to me via email as an attachement. So, now what?

You are correct Bob. I'll admit, I hate reading directions because I am so smart but maybe not smarter than a 5th grader. Hi Hi.

You bitch and moan, rant and rave, and whinge and whine because it won't work.
Now your panties are in a bunch because you've gotten tired of me pointing out that you might actually try following the directions instead of trying to ramrod it through your way.
And yet you prove the point once again.

But don't worry, you'll never again hear anything from me about how you obviously aren't that smart because you won't RTFM.

[WD0MYM]

Not to change the subject.....I have been using LOTW for a while on multiple computers and under different callsigns and the only place I have ever had to enter a password is when logging into the LOTW website. I can move the certificates from computer to computer, upload and download with HRD with that same password I use to log into the LOTW website. The username is always the same, my callsign. If I remember correctly, the instructions tell you to ignore all the passwords & usernames as they are not needed, simply skip that step and move on (except for the LOTW website...you'll need your callsign and password).

Jon

[WN9HJW]

I've never heard of it happening,

Doesnt mean it has never happened. If someone had gotten a QSL fraudulently, would they go around telling everyone?

If someone wants to cheat, they'll cheat. Digital certificates, postcards and passwords won't matter.

[WA4OTD]

If you want to cheat with Joe down the road that is one thing, if you want to cheat and have a P5 from Korea or any QSL that matters, not going to happen.....

Doesnt mean it has never happened. If someone had gotten a QSL fraudulently, would they go around telling everyone?

If someone wants to cheat, they'll cheat. Digital certificates, postcards and passwords won't matter.

[WN9HJW]

If you want to cheat with Joe down the road that is one thing, if you want to cheat and have a P5 from Korea or any QSL that matters, not going to happen.....

So basically the security and integrity of the QSL system doesn't matter, unless it involves a rare entity?

[WA4OTD]

No, integrity is integrity, I hope no one cheats, and LOTW took away a couple of methods to cheat but still left one but it takes two people cheating to do it.

So basically the security and integrity of the QSL system doesn't matter, unless it involves a rare entity?

[WA8UEG]

With over 25,000 USA users and over 52,000 total users in 339 countries it just CAN'T be that difficult IF you follow the initial setup instructions!

[WB3BEL]

Well guess what. I found my password that I scribbled down on a piece of paper. Yippy yes? Yippy no. LOTW still says my username or password is NG.

So for the 5th time, I have removed the LOTW software from my computer. I think I'll give it a rest.

K2WH

It's a bit complicated but if you read the instructions you can get it working and it's well worth the perserverence. K7MH even posted a snippet of the instructions that tells you about the passwords but I'll condense it even further for you.

To log into your LoTW account, you need :

The third password you will see in the body of the email containing your certificate. This email will also contain your username (usually your callsign, and sometimes your callsign with a number at the end). You will use your username and the password to access the Logbook User Web site. This is the only place you can use this password. Once you have gained access to this site you can change your password.

This is not your ARRL password unless you change it to match. Also it is not the password you received on the Postcard.