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 Originally Posted by KI4SJU
I do not know what to do, put radials on the roof where I can or on the ground even tho the antenna is about 7 feet above the ground. If I put them on the roof or the ground I will not be able to cut them to resonant length.
I apologize for my previous post, where it's clear I didn't see that the base of your vertical was up 7' above ground. Missed that detail because I was looking at my iPad with a pretty small screen and the photo wasn't very large.
Now that I understand what you've got there:
I agree with Greg W9GB that raising the antenna bit higher would be a great idea, and then you could run radials out across your roof in that direction, and run sloping radials down to supports at ground level in front. Since the radials can be lightweight wire (#18-#16 AWG copper), other than birds landing on them they don't have to support anything and can be secured to tent pegs or almost anything.
They should always be connected to the base mounting bracket close to where the coax attaches, and it's a good idea to use insulators then strings or ropes at the ends of the radials, since when transmitting they will have high RF voltage on them which can cause burns and even start fires if brought close to combustible materials. When a vertical is "ground mounted" (feedpoint at ground level) and the radials are laying on or buried beneath the ground, you don't have to worry about that...the earth will dissipate that energy and there is no hazard.
Now that I understand you have "elevated" the vertical, I wonder why you didn't just install it above the center of the roof, so it would be slightly higher and all the radials could just lay on the roof? The installation you have is a bit awkward because it requires radials to be brought above ground level into the front yard area. On the roof would be simpler.
This antenna on a 7' mast without any radials will be a lousy antenna.
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Well the antenna is installed the way it is because I can not attach it to my appartment. I was told I could put up a antenna as long as I do not attach it to the building.
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 Originally Posted by KI4SJU
Well the antenna is installed the way it is because I can not attach it to my appartment. I was told I could put up a antenna as long as I do not attach it to the building.
Oh. That would have been helpful to know.
Can you increase the mast height?
If not, I'd drop off the 7' mast entirely, mount the antenna at ground level, and run radials on the ground. It will work better.
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Butternut makes a tuned radial kit for elevated verticals, or you can make your own.
My experiences with verticals as as follows. Unless you live right on salt water, like some of us do here in Florida, an elevated vertical will smoke a ground mounted vertical, as long as it has some radials.
You MIGHT wish to look at the Comet V Dipole instead of the Hustler, in your location ?
It is a dipole, and does NOT require radials! It looks like a giant set of rabbit ears, but works very well.
It does not have 75/80 meters like your Hustler does, but so what ?
LOL, No one can hear you on a Hustler on 80 meters anyway (unless you have tons of radials)
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I agree an elevated vertical with a few radials for each band is very effective, at least on the higher (DX) bands.
I had a 40M gp vertical on my roof with three radials and worked New zealand on it the first night with 150W.
I had a 20M gp vertical on a garage roof with 4 radials and worked Australia and Europe with it on a regular basis with 100W
A ten meter gp vertical on a 30 ft mast with 3 radials, worked all continents with it , 100w again.
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