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    Nobody ever clicks on the ads in FB. The stock will sell high and lose 50% of its value within weeks. So, if you are looking for that tax loss for 2012 - here it is!

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    Admittedly I know nothing. But when it comes to the economy, nobody knows anything. It's chaos theory, AFAICT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K6BBC View Post
    Nobody ever clicks on the ads in FB. The stock will sell high and lose 50% of its value within weeks. So, if you are looking for that tax loss for 2012 - here it is!

    bbc
    I am saving this quote. It would be nice to see what happens in weeks, months, years...

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    I have one word for you... MYSPACE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N2RJ View Post
    I am saving this quote. It would be nice to see what happens in weeks, months, years...
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    More from the elves and gnomes of Wall Street...

    Just days before Facebook’s highly-anticipated initial public offering, some investors continue to fear an exodus of Facebook’s biggest advertisers if Mark Zuckerberg fails to tighten his focus on ad sales.

    The concern follows a report on Tuesday that General Motors (GM: 21.91, +0.49, +2.29%) will stop buying ads on Facebook, as it sees them as ineffective...

    ..."A major player such as GM withdrawing from Facebook’s paid advertising does not bode well for the company who is so reliant on advertising revenue,” said Kenneth Wisnefski, social media expert and CEO of WebiMax.

    Yet, while Facebook continues to be criticized for its meager ad offerings heading up to an expected $104 billion IPO, especially when compared with industry leaders like Google (GOOG: 628.93, +17.82, +2.92%), social media experts say GM’s departure represents more of a public relations black-eye than the start of a mass exit...

    ...Either way, it’s a reminder that the social titan still has some work to do on its advertising platform heading into one of the biggest IPOs in history.

    “Facebook has never really been able to figure out a way to integrate an effective market strategy for clients,” Wisnefski said. “That’s what they need to figure out to make Facebook less of a fad and more of a legitimate company...”

    ...Of course, all advertisers have different objectives, so while General Motors may find Facebook ads unworthy, a company just trying to interact with customers may find the platform effective...

    ...While Zuckerberg has long backed the company’s advertising method, saying he wants to concentrate on improving the product and not have ads clutter the site, the immature ad platform has put Facebook at a disadvantage to more advanced competitors.

    The 28-year old CEO has long been criticized for his unwillingness to focus on driving revenue as the social media giant heads into a massive IPO...

    ...“I think Zuckerberg is in denial here,” Wordstream’s Larry Kim said. “He wants to be this cool company that’s all about ‘connecting people,’ but 85% of his revenue is driven from Internet advertising - the sooner he figures this out, the higher the chances that Facebook is actually worth $100 billion-plus.”...

    ...Wisnefski said he “wouldn’t be surprised” if Facebook already plateaued as far as revenue...
    Time for Facebook to Grow Up
    "Where the people fear the government you have tyranny. Where the government fears the people you have liberty."
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    I wouldn't bet the farm on the Facebook IPO.

    I heard a pretty good analysis on the radio yesterday. The point made was that while FB is worth a lot of money, $100 billion is simply too much because the revenue isn't enough to justify it.

    Apple stock is worth a lot of money because they sell a lot of product. Compare their market valuation (total cost of all shares) to their annual profit and you get a certain ratio. FB's ratio is off the charts by comparison. Off the charts the wrong way.

    The folks who will make the bucks on Friday are those handling the sales and collecting the fees.

    73 de Jim, N2EY

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    Whether or not Facebook is worth that much is debatable but I think it's at least got more substance to it than Groupon.

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    It wasn't pretty at the opening bell this morning.

    Just days after wrapping up the biggest initial public offering in Silicon Valley history, shares of Facebook (FB: 34.58, -3.65, -9.55%) tumbled 11% and slumped below their issue price on Monday, a troubling signal for the newly-public social network.

    Facebook broke below its $38-a-share issue IPO price in the wake of a highly-anticipated offering that raised more than $16 billion, the second-largest domestic IPO after Visa’s (V: 115.37, +2.73, +2.42%) 2008 debut...

    ...Facebook’s underwriters, led by Morgan Stanley (MS: 13.22, -0.14, -1.01%), had to step in to prevent the company’s shares from breaking issue on Friday. After initially jumping 10.7% to $42.05, the stock landed up just 23 cents, or less than 1%, at $38.23 on Friday...
    DETAILS HERE:
    "Where the people fear the government you have tyranny. Where the government fears the people you have liberty."
    John Basil Barnhill

    "The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men."
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    And the debacle continues:

    Facebook (FB: 31.85, +0.85, +2.74%) and lead underwriter Morgan Stanley (MS: 12.98, -0.32, -2.44%) were reportedly hit with another shareholder lawsuit on Wednesday over the social network’s controversial initial public offering.

    The latest lawsuit comes even as Facebook’s shares looked to end their two-day plunge amid a pair of conflicting analyst notes on the company’s valuation...
    Unfriendly Fire: Shareholders Sue Facebook, Morgan Stanley

    *****
    Morgan Stanley (MS: 12.98, -0.34, -2.52%) didn't set the Facebook IPO price -- investors did.

    It is really that simple; the price is set by what the public wants it to be, and.if there wasn't high demand for it then the price would have been set lower.

    The same principle holds true for just about any product or service -- it is called Supply and Demand 101...

    ...We live in a culture these days that's too quick to blame others for our circumstances. Look in the mirror. Morgan Stanley's client was Facebook, and the mandate was to offer the shares to the public. They did just that.

    The public determined the correct price based on supply and demand to be $38. Enough said.
    Who Forced Anyone To Buy Facebook?
    "Where the people fear the government you have tyranny. Where the government fears the people you have liberty."
    John Basil Barnhill

    "The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men."
    Plato


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    I have to agree with the people I get my news from........

    Classic Pump & Dump.

    Even the President was hyping this a couple of months back.

    If this joker doesn't get thrown in jail I would get rid of all my stocks if I had any..
    I got smart and got out of the market back in mid 87 just before the crash.
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