Ashamed to live in NC

[WF7A]

FYI: Just a different point of view regarding this thread's original topic: http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...acp/55082316/1

[N2EY]

Same sex unions should be allowed. If people have a hang up on the word marriage the states could change their marriage licenses to civil union registrations for all couple wishing to be married. Leave the word marriage to the churches to do with what they wish. If the states make it civil union for everyone the anti group would not be able to say it hurts the sanctity of marriage and the for group would have nothing to fight for because the union would be allowed complete with license. the states would have nothing to worry about when it come to the supreme court because it will be equal.

This makes perfect sense, and solves all the problems fairly and completely. Which pretty much means it will never, ever be adopted.

Sad, really.

73 de Jim, N2EY

[EI4GMB]

Whilst I do not oppose legal recognition of same sex couples, I could not in all conscience support same sex marriage. I believe in the traditionalist view that marriage is between a man and a woman. Although same sex partnerships are legally recognized here in Ireland I am happy that marriage remains still a heterosexual institution. What you guys do in the US of A is of course your business.

Best Regards

Fred EI4GMB

[N2EY]

Whilst I do not oppose legal recognition of same sex couples, I could not in all conscience support same sex marriage. I believe in the traditionalist view that marriage is between a man and a woman.

If a civil union grants all the legal rights of a marriage, what, exactly, is the difference?

Is it really just the name?

73 de Jim, N2EY

[WB2WIK]

If a civil union grants all the legal rights of a marriage, what, exactly, is the difference?

Is it really just the name?

73 de Jim, N2EY

I view it as the same except with a marriage most of the time there's some sort of religious ceremony involved. In some places, there has to be one.

[AD7N]

In some places, there has to be one.

Where? I thought a couple could always elope and go to the judge.

[N2EY]

Where? I thought a couple could always elope and go to the judge.

In some cases that requires crossing state lines.

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True story of technology and love:

In 19th century England, the marriage laws were different in Scotland and England. A couple could get married much more easily in Scotland.

When the railroads first appeared, a number of young couples whose families disapproved of their marrying would elope to Scotland on the last train of the day. They'd get off at the first station in Scotland and get married. Since information traveled no faster than a fast train, by the time their families caught up with them it was too late.

The introduction of the telegraph ended those elopments. A couple who tried to elope would be stopped before the Scotland-England border by officials alerted by telegraph message.

73 de Jim, N2EY

[AF6LJ]

War stories: I wasn't born yet but understand my Dad flew gliders over the EU Theater in WW2, and most of those crash landed. The life of a glider pilot wasn't great and many never made it to a second mission. He made it through several (luck?) and came back and I was born 6 years later.

Glad he survived or I wouldn't be here.

It's amazing how many of us actually are here by virtue of good luck of our fathers surviving a war. It was a bad war, but didn't last long. We've been in Iraq and Afghanistan longer than WW2 lasted.

What's wrong with that picture?

I'm glad he survived we would be otherwise be without a valuable resource on the Zed.

[EI4GMB]

If a civil union grants all the legal rights of a marriage, what, exactly, is the difference?

Is it really just the name?

73 de Jim, N2EY

I would say it's to do with whether or not you believe in the sanctity of marriage.

73,

Fred EI4GMB

[K6BBC]

Groucho: "That's in every contract, that's what you call a sanity clause." Chico: "You can't a fool a me there ain't no sanity clause"

And with that...

I would say it's to do with whether or not you believe in the sanctity of marriage.

73,

Fred EI4GMB