You might be a LID if...

[KC8VWM]

this post has deteriorated to the point where I am reminded of those long summer days when kid brother and baby sister ran out of things to argue about and made random noises to get the last word in

That's one of the reasons why I have not participated in this discussion and why I consider this thread as irelevant...

[N7GH]

Back on topic:

You might be a LID if...

1 - you don't listen and announce before jumping on the "open frequency".
2 - you tune up over the top of the DX pile.
3 - you need a full gallon to communicate to your neighbor 30 miles away.
4 - you've never used an antenna analyzer.
5 - you don't know what 5 up (or 5 down) means.
6 - you key up over the barely intelligable "noise" on the band because: "they'll never hear me."
7 - you don't understand the effects of grayline--you just turn the power up to get over those so and so's that faded into your QSO.
8 - you don't bother to turn the radio off before you start you shack time: "nobody'll care, it's not too loud."
9 - you advertise "My station's got no ears, so unless you have 800+ watts I cannot hear you."
10 - at any level of license class you think the rules don't apply to you.
11 - you don't have time to help out that new guy--because "the moron doesn't know."
12 - you don't know what a "LID" is.

Any other things that might set your teeth on edge when you encounter it?

[KB1NXE]

Well, I'll admit. I did a LIDish thing last night. While listening to QSOs with PY0FM, I heard him calling QRZ several times with the obvious person jumping right on top. I had listen to about a dozen or so QSO's actually moving off freq and returning trying to get his rhythm and checking for split. I finally dropped my call. Another ham (thank you BTW) called and asked if I was in South America. I said no, and the other ham replied he's only calling for SA. I apologized and moved on (to OD5NH). I was never able to hear him call "QRZ South America" because of the QRM caused by the jumpers. I did end up working him later.

I guess my point is, judgement is easy. But not every LIDish act is poor operation.

[NI7I]

Only some here judge.. I wouldnt consider that poor operating.. You did as well as you could in the conditions. Most people who tend to judge,
dont really have the experience required to pass judgement..

NI7I

Well, I'll admit. I did a LIDish thing last night. While listening to QSOs with PY0FM, I heard him calling QRZ several times with the obvious person jumping right on top. I had listen to about a dozen or so QSO's actually moving off freq and returning trying to get his rhythm and checking for split. I finally dropped my call. Another ham (thank you BTW) called and asked if I was in South America. I said no, and the other ham replied he's only calling for SA. I apologized and moved on (to OD5NH). I was never able to hear him call "QRZ South America" because of the QRM caused by the jumpers. I did end up working him later.

I guess my point is, judgement is easy. But not every LIDish act is poor operation.

[KY5U]

That's one of the reasons why I have not participated in this discussion and why I consider this thread as irelevant...

It's always nice to consider perspective when contemplating irrelevance. From your perspective, I would say the same thing.

[NI7I]

Back when I was still sailing merchant ships, I got a lot of SWL cards from Europe and many from Russia. I believe that SWL confirmations were
a requirement for a Soviet ham license.. Not sure tho.. That part of the hobby never really died tho..

\Lee
NI7I

I think that Popular Communications magazine recently revived this old tradition and is now issuing callsigns to "monitoring stations." The 1960s-era SWL callsign certificates have become genuine collectibles (at least in the radio hobbyist world).

Cheers,
Phil, WW2E and VE3PFM

[N7GH]

Well, I'll admit. I did a LIDish thing last night. While listening to QSOs with PY0FM, I heard him calling QRZ several times with the obvious person jumping right on top. I had listen to about a dozen or so QSO's actually moving off freq and returning trying to get his rhythm and checking for split. I finally dropped my call. Another ham (thank you BTW) called and asked if I was in South America. I said no, and the other ham replied he's only calling for SA. I apologized and moved on (to OD5NH). I was never able to hear him call "QRZ South America" because of the QRM caused by the jumpers. I did end up working him later.

I guess my point is, judgement is easy. But not every LIDish act is poor operation.

I don't see a LID-ish act there: answering a CQ or QRZ, you could not help not being able to hear the "CQ South America" or "QRZ South America". The people that have been the agitators in the group here or "have gotten their panties in a bunch" seem to be ragging to rattify some pricks of conscience, nobody is going to be able to do exactly the right thing every time... but at times you find yourself in a situation where you're not following an appropriate line of action--change it, rather than, trying to justify your actions. I say bravo for the way you handled the situation.

[N7GH]

Only some here judge.. I wouldnt consider that poor operating.. You did as well as you could in the conditions. Most people who tend to judge,
dont really have the experience required to pass judgement..

NI7I

But then some do, and some should just know better.

[N7GH]

I think that Popular Communications magazine recently revived this old tradition and is now issuing callsigns to "monitoring stations." The 1960s-era SWL callsign certificates have become genuine collectibles (at least in the radio hobbyist world).

Cheers,
Phil, WW2E and VE3PFM

Back in the 70's when I was first getting into HAM Radio, I came across a Zenith Trans-Oceanic... I started listening to what ever I could find on the shortwave bands for overseas--it was a very enjoyable what I considered as a complimentary activity to HAM Radio.

[NI7I]

And we all know what category you think you are in.

But then some do, and some should just know better.