Norton sucks

[K2WH]

I must be one of the few: I have Symantec's Internet Security on both our PCs and it works fine, no problems--it's not the memory hog it used to be. Yes, it's subscription-based but just like a magazine, it stops when the time period ends. No biggie.

No you are not one of the few, I too have Norton AV and have never had an issue with it and it works great. Stops everything and anything trying to get into the computer.

K2WH

[KA9JLM]

Yep, ran into the same thing. I complained bitterly to Norton that I bought the software and it is mine. Not so. I found out I leased it. The wifey says well of course it's leased. To which I said look; if I have a subscription to a magazine and I allow the subscription to expire or I don't renew it, I still have use of the magazines.

Anyway, leasing the software locks you in forever. Seems illegal almost or should be. All they have to do is lease the software to "X" amount of people and they nearly have gauranteed income forever more.

K2WH

The Windows OS is not Yours either. And you agree when you accept the licensing agreement.

[G4ALA]

A machine of mine clean ran out of memory. It turned out that it had a Norton quantine file that over several years had run up a vast 23GB of quarantined file. I ditched the file and ditched Norton for AVG. It all works now.

The "leasing" model is an insideous aspect of "cloud computing" where software is in a remote server(s) and all computing operations are carried out elsewhere for a fee. You never even really have posession of the software. It all seems to be part of megabucks for nothing that the IT world is growing into. Tabletware is at the base of the problem. My advice, never use a machine with Apps, they may be useful but where is the software? It's all a cloud if s$@t as far as I can see and we will all end up with emptier pockets.

Happy days

Can anyone argue a positon in favour of Cloud Computing? An argument is that the software is automatically updated at the remote server and is thus always the latest version. I get that anyway and sometimes I do not wish to have the latest version.

Something with so many negatives just can't be true, can it?

73

John
G4ALA

[AC0H]

A lot of people still don't get that, even though it's spelled out in the EULA.
It's knida like Hams buying houses in restricted neighborhoods then compaining about "no antennas" after the deal is signed.

[WF7A]

Can anyone argue a positon in favour of Cloud Computing? An argument is that the software is automatically updated at the remote server and is thus always the latest version. I get that anyway and sometimes I do not wish to have the latest version.

Something with so many negatives just can't be true, can it?

Well, John--for the average user it's a bad idea; if you're out of WiFi or cellphone range you're dead in the water.

For a business that has a lot of computers and has a reliable Wifi set-up, it does make sense: there's less of a need for Help Desk support and the outlay for software costs far less than equipping every machine with the same app(s). That, and if a company computer gets lost or stolen all the proprietary data is still on their server so it's not lost forever.

Still, I feel more comfortable having my apps and data on-board--it may be a "touchy-feely" kind of thing with no regard to best use, but that's just the way I prefer using a computer.

[W4AFB]

Microsoft windows Defender is all you need. Spybot this, malware that blah blah! Most of thses so called anti-virus programs are more of a resource hog then the virus itself.

[WF7A]

Not so fast: there's not a single piece of software out there that catches all the nasties: you need at least two or three apps to keep your computer as virus/trojan-free as possible.

If you have a fast enough machine with enough RAM you won't get bogged down by those apps doing their jobs. (I typically max-out my RAM slots so I never have that issue to worry about.)

[KB0YYO]

The better half bought or leased Norton 360. This the second time. It does not get every thing. It cannot find the reason the cursor does it's own thing and travels around the screen on its own. It comes and goes. Other than that it catches lots of cookies and not much else.

[W4SUL]

welcome to the new software leasing model.
There has been talk of MS using that model on their operating systems.
You would pay a yearly fee to use the software and at the end of the leace period you would only get access to the operating system for an hour at a time.

And this is why 7 of the 8 computers in my house run Linux. The 8th runs Windows 2000, which runs my CNC plasma cutter. Still trying to convince the company to bring out a LInux version of thier software...++

[KA5ROW]

Well it just PO me that the software just quit 100%. When did they start doing this? It must be just in the last year or so.
I had Norton 2004 and 05 and it did not do this.