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Thread: Petiton started to void HOA Antenna Restrictions.

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  1. #21

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    The real Problem that NOT ONE PERSON has thought about is HOA and CCR's are popping up all over America.There is hardly one area where you can go or live without the Commie style Agenda where everyone tattles on each other. ITS Russia gang,it is pure Communism not freedom.

    Every new area where homes are being built are done so as to not let anyone have one freedom.So you say Move MOVE WHERE into a junkie drug area,yes right only place you might be able to put up a antenna.

    let me say this OK we are in America not Russia and to the ones that adore this type of life you have forgotten the Military man that died to give you freedom that a bunch of wackos have taken away from every person.

    A Disabled veteran Mark
    MARK WIDERSTROM

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    Quote Originally Posted by N5UOA View Post
    The real Problem that NOT ONE PERSON has thought about is HOA and CCR's are popping up all over America.There is hardly one area where you can go or live without the Commie style Agenda where everyone tattles on each other. ITS Russia gang,it is pure Communism not freedom.

    Every new area where homes are being built are done so as to not let anyone have one freedom.So you say Move MOVE WHERE into a junkie drug area,yes right only place you might be able to put up a antenna.

    let me say this OK we are in America not Russia and to the ones that adore this type of life you have forgotten the Military man that died to give you freedom that a bunch of wackos have taken away from every person.

    A Disabled veteran Mark
    I've been called a right-wing wacko more than once. I wear it as a badge of honor; however, I don't believe that CCRs and HOAs are forms of Communism or Totalitarianism. A group of homeowners who band together under a given set of rules are acting on the individual freedom to do so. Individuals have the right not to enter the compact. We don't need Government telling citizens that they can't adopt a given standard for their neighborhoods.

  3. #23

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    A bunch of people that have no training or skills in the area of radio communications are going to make rules that adversely impact what is in fact a minority. This type of attitude has involved goverment to resolve the problems the majority has involked on the minority. Sometimes it takes an approach from a 1000lb gorilla to overcome the improper attitudes of the 600lb gorilla.
    People are driven by fear far more then they need to be. Amateur radio to them is dangerous, it messes up their improperly made electronics, it make childern sick, it turns decent folks into beastiality animals. Really? How do you impress upon minds that are slammed shut their point of view is incorrect?
    As stated in many postings there has never been a persons property value lowered by the appearance of amateur radio antennas.
    How are you going to fix this?
    What is your solution?
    Is the majority always right?
    73
    Gary

  4. #24

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    Is there any sort of directory of Realtors who are also licensed hams? I'd like to find one (or more) in my area to help me locate an affordable, ham-friendly neighborhood - seems hard trying to explain things to a non-ham.

    I hope the petition, or some other action, makes things easier to find housing that doesn't discriminate against hams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KC2VQZ View Post
    no restrations dave
    It's worse than a serfdom, more like a commune.

    73 Delwyn KH6DC

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    Funny I can have a 24" satellite T.V. Dish, a flag pole and a "service animal" but not a single Ham Radio antenna. Keep in mind these folks also change the rules on a whim. After 43 years my condo rules were change to no motorcyle or scooter parking. So the little old lady with an electric bike down the street from me has to park hers in the kitchen. Your picture is extreme, just like most codes won't allow 12' three strand barb wire fences there is a middle ground.

    Other issue I also see is that building permits require engineering studies to erect an antenna. The refusal to accept the one from mfg. should also be addressed.

  7. #27

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    I sincerely sympathize with those who were licensed after they bought a home and signed a HOA. Some knew they would have problems before they were licensed while others never considered it. If this issue is sufficiently important to that operator, he or she will find a way to resolve the problem. This may include attic or stealth antennas and even finding another place to live is an option.

    When you sign a contract, you agree to the terms of the agreement. I do not believe the FCC or Federal government should get involved in an effort to push over a HOA on behalf of an individual who gave their word to abide by that agreement.

    Ken
    KG4MUW

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    Spot on, who needs the Unicorn corps involved?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KB0KYV View Post
    This argument is rubbish! It doesn't even make any sense. If this type of proposal were enacted as law, the government would be expanding and protecting our rights to operate a ham station, not "telling us what to do"! If you don't like the aesthetics of my dipole, it's really simple... DON'T PUT ONE UP!!!
    Exactly I don't want the government telling me I can't raise hogs in my neighborhood, or my store my collection of antique cars in the front yard, proudly displayed on high tensional concrete blocks by the way. If my neighbors don't like my hogs, or my antique cars, don't look....SNARK OFF
    Last edited by N6CRR; 04-12-2012 at 11:24 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WK5X View Post
    I've been called a right-wing wacko more than once. I wear it as a badge of honor; however, I don't believe that CCRs and HOAs are forms of Communism or Totalitarianism. A group of homeowners who band together under a given set of rules are acting on the individual freedom to do so. Individuals have the right not to enter the compact. We don't need Government telling citizens that they can't adopt a given standard for their neighborhoods.
    The simplest thing is to stay OUT of such places with HOA's. I realize, however, a new generation of homeowners is upon us. These have never known any other way. Twenty years ago, if you had told me that there would be a group that could come to my property that I bought with my own money and tell ME what I can do on my own land, I'd have told them to simply get outta here. To these new homeowners being told what color they can paint their front door, how may vehicles you can park on the lawn, or whether you can have a motor home in the back yard, this is the new normal. It is NOT normal for ME, and I will never stand for such. You come over here in MY yard and start telling me what I can do on my OWN property, you are liable to find yourself looking down the bore of "ol' Betsy" and a not so friendly greeting: GIT!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I still believe it is possible to find homes without restrictions--at least around here. You might have to look for an older home, and no, ALL of them are not in some drug-ridden neighborhood. Many homes have been built since WWII that are solidly built, have no major repair issues and have more personality than those look-alike boxes spaced closer than a fat man's circumference.....which I would not have. My house has a 70' tower, a Cuscraft vertical, and a multi-band dipole & no one says a word. There's simply nothing to say cuz there's no HOA!

    J

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