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05-19-2012, 04:35 PM
#121
Whatever about God you should at least have Creator in your constitution as the founding fathers had in the U.S Declaration of Independence. 
73,
Fred EI4GMB
Last edited by EI4GMB; 05-19-2012 at 04:45 PM.
'You can never plan the future by the past.'
'Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it.'
'But what is liberty without wisdom, and without virtue? It is the greatest of all possible evils; for it is folly, vice, and madness without tuition or restraint.'
Edmund Burke (1729-1797) Irish statesman, author, orator, political theorist and philosopher.
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05-20-2012, 03:57 AM
#122
Wow this is getting around. I posted the "If I were the Devil" Video on Facebook a month ago. I have to say Paul Harvey predicted the drug problem and the BS we face today in 1965.
God Bless America and her Troops.
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05-20-2012, 04:04 AM
#123
The only reason it's in The Declarations of Independence is to guard against men taking away human rights they considered "natural law."
bbc
 Originally Posted by EI4GMB
Whatever about God you should at least have Creator in your constitution as the founding fathers had in the U.S Declaration of Independence.
73,
Fred EI4GMB
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05-20-2012, 04:23 AM
#124
And slowly it comes out. We will see what the supreme court has to say in June I hope.
 Originally Posted by NL7W
There's nothing unintended concerning Healthcare reform, for it was derived behind closed doors... late at night. It was passed with legislators saying "we must pass it to see what's in it." 
Leroy
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05-20-2012, 04:44 AM
#125
I say probably not, this is Obamanomics, why will this change the habits of the people that walk up to the ER now when life blows up for any of a number of things that could be handled by a doctor in a routine exam earlier. Getting people to work is key, if the true level of unemployment was 8% the problem would largely go away as most that work have insurance or can get it.
In your country I can see your point of view, I live on Belgium/Holland border for 2 years, but the education level is higher and drug use is lowest in EU countries. We have a significant segment of under-educated, drug using people that show up when big problems happen. They are not likely to show up the week before and say crack is consuming me and I think I'm about to have a heart attack.
 Originally Posted by PA5COR
Many poor use the ER for medical care and then walk away from the bill.
The nation pays for that medical service.
When insured, they will be directed to clinics and general practioners and the nation will save money. Just because people were uninsured did not mean the nation did not pick up the medical bills for a lot of them.
Those without assets were immune from collections.
Leroy
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05-20-2012, 11:24 AM
#126
 Originally Posted by WA4OTD
I say probably not, this is Obamanomics, why will this change the habits of the people that walk up to the ER now when life blows up for any of a number of things that could be handled by a doctor in a routine exam earlier. Getting people to work is key, if the true level of unemployment was 8% the problem would largely go away as most that work have insurance or can get it.
The reality is that more and more jobs do not provide health insurance. Or if they do, it is so bare-bones that it doesn't cover much.
Getting people to work is key. But that's a more complex problem.
 Originally Posted by WA4OTD
In your country I can see your point of view, I live on Belgium/Holland border for 2 years, but the education level is higher and drug use is lowest in EU countries. We have a significant segment of under-educated, drug using people that show up when big problems happen. They are not likely to show up the week before and say crack is consuming me and I think I'm about to have a heart attack.
In those countries health insurance is much less dependent on who you work for. How much education you get is much less dependent on how much money your parents make.
Most of all, this didn't start with the current president. These problems go way back - to when the Powers That Be began allowing whole sectors of the economy to be exported "off-shore" because it was a little cheaper in the short run to not pay a living wage to American workers. It happened so gradually you didn't notice - but now it's a big problem. Goes back more than 30 years.
Interesting how Paul Harvey doesn't comment about THAT.
Think about it.
73 de Jim, N2EY
Last edited by N2EY; 05-20-2012 at 11:30 AM.
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05-20-2012, 02:34 PM
#127
 Originally Posted by K6BBC
The only reason it's in The Declarations of Independence is to guard against men taking away human rights they considered "natural law."
bbc
That is correct...
This country was founded with British Common Law and Natural Law.
73,
Sue
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05-20-2012, 04:15 PM
#128
Whenever I hear a reactionary pining for the "good old days" I wonder why they never seem to remember things very accurately. I guess time has a way of winnowing the wheat from the chaff.
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05-20-2012, 07:31 PM
#129
 Originally Posted by K6BBC
The only reason it's in The Declarations of Independence is to guard against men taking away human rights they considered "natural law."
bbc
The Declaration also asserts a Creator as the giver of that "natural law".
73,
Fred EI4GMB
'You can never plan the future by the past.'
'Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it.'
'But what is liberty without wisdom, and without virtue? It is the greatest of all possible evils; for it is folly, vice, and madness without tuition or restraint.'
Edmund Burke (1729-1797) Irish statesman, author, orator, political theorist and philosopher.
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05-20-2012, 07:41 PM
#130
 Originally Posted by N2EY
Interesting how Paul Harvey doesn't comment about THAT.
He hasn't commented on ANYTHING in over 3 years. But, he has a good excuse...
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