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  1. #61
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    The 60m change has worked out to be a really good band for me I had always used 60m and worked DX on it with some sucess. But when the change took effect and I was able to use Digital modes my DXCC count on 60m has risen by 28 enties so far. The most usable mode that can be used and avoid the PSK and some of the others is JT65HF go in right beside them or even under in some cases and you can ignore them. I have been doing so for the last 10 days or so and out of all the Q's at even up to -40db below the noise floor have only missed 1 so far out of 59 not bad.

    Charles there are other modes that can be used and use very little band width, in fact I run quite a bit of QRP using JT65HF also it's ideal for that and sometimes use as little as little as 1/2w. Don't get me wrong I do run a lot of RTTY/PSK-31 also as well as WSPR for probigation checks but I'm really a SSB op and where my first interest lies for DX.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VE7DCW View Post
    That's a "personal attack" if I ever saw one!!!
    I thought it was a straw man, no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by N0AZZ View Post
    The 60m change has worked out to be a really good band for me I had always used 60m and worked DX on it with some sucess. But when the change took effect and I was able to use Digital modes my DXCC count on 60m has risen by 28 enties so far. The most usable mode that can be used and avoid the PSK and some of the others is JT65HF go in right beside them or even under in some cases and you can ignore them. I have been doing so for the last 10 days or so and out of all the Q's at even up to -40db below the noise floor have only missed 1 so far out of 59 not bad.

    Charles there are other modes that can be used and use very little band width, in fact I run quite a bit of QRP using JT65HF also it's ideal for that and sometimes use as little as little as 1/2w. Don't get me wrong I do run a lot of RTTY/PSK-31 also as well as WSPR for probigation checks but I'm really a SSB op and where my first interest lies for DX.
    Wasn't it suposed to be one QSO per channel and on center frequentie for you guys?
    73 de Andre PE1RDW
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    Quote Originally Posted by PE1RDW View Post
    Wasn't it suposed to be one QSO per channel and on center frequentie for you guys?
    It does seem odd but that's how it reads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KR2C View Post
    It does seem odd but that's how it reads.
    The exact text of 97.303(h) extracted from the Federal Register, bold effect added:

    "(h) 60 m band: (1) In the 5330.5-5406.4 kHz band (60 m band), amateur stations may transmit only on the five center frequencies specified in the table below. In order to meet this requirement, control operators of stations transmitting phone, data, and RTTY emissions (emission designators 2K80J3E, 2K80J2D, and 60H0J2B, respectively) may set the carrier frequency 1.5 kHz below the center frequency as specified in the table below. For CW emissions (emission designator 150HA1A), the carrier frequency is set to the center frequency. Amateur operators shall ensure that their emissions do not occupy more than 2.8 kHz centered on each of these center frequencies."

    The paragraph was followed by a table (which did not survive reformatting for this site) indicating frequency settings for USB and center freq of each channel. By such restrictions, only one signal at a time can occupy each channel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WB2WIK View Post
    It's also really easy to find on http://www.arrl.org

    Just type "Part 97" into the search box, and it comes right up in two forms for downloading.
    I was looking PART97 at fcc.gov , where one should reasonably be able to expect to find the PART97 regulations by using the search box there - without having to go off-site, or send an eMail to the FCC in order to find it.

    My comment was about the FCC web site, I have PART97 listed at ARWatch too - but I wanted to see if I had the latest version and the FCC website is the best place to be sure of the freshness of the data.

    I do not trust the ARRL, and would never go to their website for information that is of any importance. Might as well trust WikiPedia, it's all just as good as the last fellow to write in his personal prejudice as 'fact'.

    If you had read my post, you would have known that I was talking specifically about the FCC website's lousy search capability, and almost completely opaque site navigation system.

    I could care less about what might, or might not be posted at the ARRL website.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PE1RDW View Post
    Wasn't it suposed to be one QSO per channel and on center frequentie for you guys?

    It is.

    If breaking that rule is the big deal that they say it is, then the 60 meter experiment in the US will be over soon.

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    Where 60M is concerned we have Bonnie on one extreme and Chucky on the other. I think this muddies up the waters for everybody else. I determined long ago that 60M is not really someplace I wanted to play because for me, the rules are a bit confusing. So to be safe, I stay out and enjoy playing radio elsewhere. But then I am not looking for any awards. Radio is s'posed to be fun! So have fun!
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    Quote Originally Posted by N5PVL View Post
    If you had read my post, you would have known that I was talking specifically about the FCC website's lousy search capability, and almost completely opaque site navigation system.
    I know, I did read it. I pointed out the ARRL website is a lot better than the FCC's and Part 97 is prominently displayed in two different formats that download in two seconds and is updated every time the official document is. Part 97 doesn't change very often, so the updates might only be once a year or less. But when it is revised, the League's website catches up immediately -- I've never seen any delay at all, not even one day.

    The FCC website is horrible to navigate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by N8CPA View Post
    The exact text of 97.303(h) extracted from the Federal Register, bold effect added:

    "(h) 60 m band: (1) In the 5330.5-5406.4 kHz band (60 m band), amateur stations may transmit only on the five center frequencies specified in the table below. In order to meet this requirement, control operators of stations transmitting phone, data, and RTTY emissions (emission designators 2K80J3E, 2K80J2D, and 60H0J2B, respectively) may set the carrier frequency 1.5 kHz below the center frequency as specified in the table below. For CW emissions (emission designator 150HA1A), the carrier frequency is set to the center frequency. Amateur operators shall ensure that their emissions do not occupy more than 2.8 kHz centered on each of these center frequencies."

    The paragraph was followed by a table (which did not survive reformatting for this site) indicating frequency settings for USB and center freq of each channel. By such restrictions, only one signal at a time can occupy each channel.
    So just to be clear, for those who haven't followed all the twists & turns of this thread:

    What you're saying is that, based on the text that you found, the original complaints that Charles had (in Post #1 of this thread), regarding the ARRL recommendations, are moot, since the ARRL is merely echoing what the Federal Register says. Right?
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