Lucked out while going out to dinner with XYL on Sunday the 25th...$3.74. Every other station I saw that day was $3.89 to $3.99. It was $45.20 to fill up the puddle jumper from less than 1/8 of tank.
It would really help new amateurs who want to build antennas to find an older copy of the ARRL Antenna book. There are too few explanations and too little data in the current editions. By old I mean say pre-1989. Cruise hamfest tables and Ebay, there are plenty available pretty cheap.
Slightly off topic I guess but a couple of nights ago NPR's "All Tech Considered" reviewed a few smartphone apps for finding the lowest gas prices close by.
The guy found what seemed like a good price but when he got there he discovered that the low price was the cash price. He wanted to use a credit card.
I've never noticed that around here. I think there's a difference between self service and (quite rare) full service but I've never seen different prices for cash and credit card. I thought a merchant was prohibited from offering a "discount for cash" by the rules agreed to with the card companies.
...I've never noticed that around here. I think there's a difference between self service and (quite rare) full service but I've never seen different prices for cash and credit card. I thought a merchant was prohibited from offering a "discount for cash" by the rules agreed to with the card companies.
Around here several stores offer discounts if you use their credit card on their pumps. I've seen it as high as 15 cents/gallon.
As far as the delivery cost, I think it's determined more by the distance from a pipeline terminal point than from a refinery.
In my experience I'd say around a quarter of the gas stations I go to have a price difference between cash/debit and credit; the merchant pays a higher service fee for credit card transactions so by offering a 'discount' to customers if they'll use debit or cash, the owner(s) will incur a lower fee.
However...
Because hackers are sneaky by replacing or augmenting card readers with ones that capture account data, to be on the safe side you shouldn't use a debit card at the pump.
I'm not sure if that applies to all merchants now. PayPal might be in for a surprise if someone decides to legally challenge the "no discount for cash" rule.
its reading threads like this that make me GLAD i dont drive anymore - well not a gas vehicle anyways
my little EV does about 15 mile or so for approx 20 p ( a few cents ?? ) of electric - it gets me round town and tho its not fast ( max 8 mph ) - it does the job - for longer trips well taxis are expensive in one way -BUT then i consider the cost of maintanence - road tax - insurance - parking charges both at venues and outside ones own home - and they are good value for the limited use i have for them - ok it gets prohibitive for longer distances - but when one does not go far most of the time ..................................
i CAN when the weathers right even save the 20 p - by plugging into my solar panels ( they also run some of my radio gear via recycled batteries )
the DOWN SIDE to this "utopia " ?? - being disabled - no longer ALLOWED to drive cars ( owing to eyesight problems - which are not an issue at the speeds i travel at now or with the type of vehicle i am allowed - but would be in a normal vehicle - not only that i would not put others at risk by driving because of this - pity some of the people who DO drive with defective vision dont appreciate - and god knows i have had to dig a goodly few of them out of wrecks when i was in the fire service - but it was NOT usually THEM who where worst hurt )
so stop moaning - you could be a lot worse off - how many of you ever demand that "out of town stores " not be allowed ?? - how many of you demand that other facilities be provided for those who do NOT drive locally ?? - how many of you ever consider that there are many people in rural areas - and indeed cities that have to pay higher prices for virtually EVERYTHING because they are NOT car owners ?? ( but STILL get hit by gas price and in our case in the uk flaming taxes )
so if you want the conveniance of cars - then suck it up and pay for gas - or start demanding that EV's which COULD suffice for a LOT of most peoples transport needs be pushed forward - the tech IS there but the gas companies and profit takers dont want them becoming popular + of course people dont want to be "inconvenianced " by slower vhehicles clogging up the roads - or not having the "range " that a petrol car has
i look at the cars here - 90% of them are carrying ONE person - ok so if EV is not an option - then why not make smaller and lighter vehicles with small gas efficient motors that CARRY just ONE person ? - do we REALLY NEED cars for 4 or more ? ( to say nothing of the "chelsea tractors " **- taking one spoilt brat to school - let the lil blighters WALK like i did when i was a kid - 3+ mile round trip each day - never killed me ) - when 90% of the time they are being underused
and before any of you attack my views - UNTILL you cant have a car - you can NOT appreciate the folly of it all and the house of cards we have built based on their use
( for our friends in the states : - you may not be familiar with the term "chelsea tractor " - this refers to those bloody great 4X4 's that a lot of "well to do " people in some areas of the uk seem to think are essential in towns - most of which have never BEEN off road other than the parking lot of the local tescos - and which during any snow here are frequently the FIRST vehicles to be abandoned at the side of the road - their owners not CAPABLE of using a 4X4 to its full potential - they are also very popular with parents for the "school run " on the basis that little tarquin is safer in what equates to a tank than in a more modest vehicle
ho hum ............................
I WILL catch up with YOU later - until then try not to p1ss off too many people - you may have to spend eternity with them !!
Too bad they don't make them any more. Except, the one I was lucky enough to find was completely rebuilt from top to bottom, everything in the engine, transmission, suspension, exhaust system, headlights, seats, interior you name it, it's been replaced with brand new.
...It's like driving a brand spanking new car all over again.
Originally Posted by KT1F
) - when 90% of the time they are being underused 
I WILL catch up with YOU later - until then try not to p1ss off too many people - you may have to spend eternity with them !!
