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View Poll Results: Trade 420-440 MHz for 144MHz extension ? ( secondary allocation 140-144, 148-150MHz)

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  • YES, I like a idea of more 2 meter band.

    2 4.35%
  • NO, I rather keep 420-440MHz, NO 144Mz extension wanted

    39 84.78%
  • 420-440MHz can go, don't need 2 meter extension either.

    0 0%
  • want extension, BUT, somewhere else , may be HF, 6 meter ?

    5 10.87%
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Thread: trade 420 - 440 MHz for 144 MHz extension ? ( 140-150 MHz )

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    Default trade 420 - 440 MHz for 144 MHz extension ? ( 140-150 MHz )

    If FCC says since VHF band is not as useful as once anymore.
    they want to allocate to HAMs extension of 2 meter band, by giving HAM secondary allocation on 140-144 MHz, 148-150 MHz, for giving up 420 - 440MHz
    Do you agree to it ?

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    I'd have to say no. I don't really use either myself, just HF, but if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

    73, Henry

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    The 435 Satellite sub band would be impossible to change. There is no practical way to change those birds Plus the Satellite Sub band is an international allocation.

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    I once worked with a very wise man - a NASA facility director - whose philosophy was...

    Never lose an existing capability


    extra 2 meter allocation would just be tied up with more repeaters

    I want bandwidth for ATV, which we have in the band we share with military RADAR which the military will not abdicate
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    That sure sounds like government math to me (google verizon math as well)... We'll take 20 here, and only give you 2 there... Yeah that sounds like the deal of the century... NOT.......

    How about going after the wireless carriers that are just sitting on spectrum, rather than using it? Just to monopolize markets, and to try to keep their competitors from being.... Now heres the shocker... Competitive...

    What I'm REALLY wondering is... How is this "first responder broadband" going to be invincible, and not vulnerable to the same things our cellular networks are?

    Here's an idea, make the wireless carriers use the spectrum they are sitting on and offer a big fat government contract for said carriers to carry first responder bandwidth as the primary user... Both problems solved...

    Either way, more spectrum gets free'd up, or there is more broadband spectrum in use, to use... What a concept... lol
    Last edited by KC9SQR; 03-12-2011 at 08:20 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AE6ZW View Post
    If FCC says since VHF band is not as useful as once anymore.
    they want to allocate to HAMs extension of 2 meter band, by giving HAM secondary allocation on 140-144 MHz, 148-150 MHz, for giving up 420 - 440MHz
    Do you agree to it ?
    Do you have any proof that the FCC is making such a consideration?
    73
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    I just thought it is a good idea, may be it is good opportunity to ask.
    2 mtr band secondary allocation just below and above current band is great for most, since may of the 2 mtr FM radio are modifiable to cover MARS, CAP, etc.
    since they are government band, just like 420-450MHz, and does not seems to be used much.
    I think many people only have 2 meter band only, since 2 mtr band FM radio are cheap. so, it may be better to have larger 2 mtr band than 70 cm band. I know many HAM personally only have 2 mtr band FM, but not 70 cm dual band.

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    Quote Originally Posted by W6GMT View Post
    The 435 Satellite sub band would be impossible to change. There is no practical way to change those birds Plus the Satellite Sub band is an international allocation.

    W6GMT
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    Absolutely! All the sats would become space junk! Yep... let's pollute space... wipe out 70 cm!

    Bad idea!
    John KD8DVR

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    Quote Originally Posted by AE6ZW View Post
    I just thought it is a good idea, may be it is good opportunity to ask.
    2 mtr band secondary allocation just below and above current band is great for most, since may of the 2 mtr FM radio are modifiable to cover MARS, CAP, etc.
    since they are government band, just like 420-450MHz, and does not seems to be used much.
    I think many people only have 2 meter band only, since 2 mtr band FM radio are cheap. so, it may be better to have larger 2 mtr band than 70 cm band. I know many HAM personally only have 2 mtr band FM, but not 70 cm dual band.
    HOWEVER, nowadays, you can get a dual band HT at a cost many single band radios cost. The Wouxun KG-UVD1p for example... (FCC ID approved)

    The real point is though

    NOT to lose another band. The 1.25M (220) band lost space.. now we lose an ENTIRE band! No way!

    There is a ton of UNUSED spectrum out there! Hell, the 700 Mhz auction had few takers. There is a whole segment that lies vacant because the FCC had all these stipulations.. crazy.
    John KD8DVR

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    even we lose 70 cm band, we can still listen for 70 cm downlink from satellites. there are many satellites uplink is 2 meter , downlink is 70 cm.
    so it is not the end of satellites.

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