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 Originally Posted by KC2UGV
How is it "ungentlemanly" to call CQ on an unoccupied frequency, that is clearly within the band's allowed emission types?
Are we supposed to avoid every frequency where some net or mode claims it's stake? If that's the case, I hereby claim 14.290 as my operating frequency.
I completely agree. With a 6L beam on my tower, I always hear SSTV activity on 14.230 if there's any propagation to anywhere. But if you don't hear any, go for it.
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 Originally Posted by WB2WIK
I completely agree. With a 6L beam on my tower, I always hear SSTV activity on 14.230 if there's any propagation to anywhere. But if you don't hear any, go for it.
So, why would you bother "reminding other stations that it's the SSTV calling frequency"?
Obviously, they were hearing nothing.
Corey, KC2UGV
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 Originally Posted by WB2WIK
Ditto about 14.225.
And I still hear a lot of people calling CQ on SSB on 14.230.
I usually call them and give them a very quick reminder this is the SSTV calling frequency and it would be best to QSY a bit. It's astonishing how many people don't know that.
I admit I didn't know it until last year, and I've been on 34 years. But then I haven't worked 20 m since the 1980's -- just got on to test rx with MMSSTV HIHI
Even a frequency as notably well-known as 14.230 could easily be missed by an op who doesn't dabble in many modes or bands...
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 Originally Posted by AD8T
I admit I didn't know it until last year, and I've been on 34 years. But then I haven't worked 20 m since the 1980's -- just got on to test rx with MMSSTV HIHI
Even a frequency as notably well-known as 14.230 could easily be missed by an op who doesn't dabble in many modes or bands...
It's mostly a matter of what you can hear.
This isn't a "law," it's just a gentleman's agreement. If you hear nothing on a frequency, use it.
I always hear digital (SSTV) activity on 14.230 -- literally always -- it's European in the morning, domestic all day long, and Pacific in the evening, but it's always there. As such, I wouldn't bother transmitting there.
If you don't hear anything, it's open game.
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The educational process about band edges
 Originally Posted by N0WYO
This was meant as a friendly and educational reminder, but I guess you are personally affronted by what was intended as a learning moment for the less experienced. But you decided to take umbrage with it. WHY?
I hope you are not one of the offenders. Your snide response leads me to believe otherwise... a word to the wise is sufficient. 
You outed yourself.
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I am sure this happens quite a bit like you say. I have not noticed any myself. I don't ask people what class license they hold and I don't look them up on QRZed either. It is their responsibility to know where and how to operate. I see more of a problem of many hams working to close to the band edges. Like calling CQ on 14350 for example.
Sean
My memory's not as sharp as it used to be. Also, my memory's not as sharp as it used to be. 
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Band edge operations - Topic got hijacked
I posted about a simple observation of General Class licensees on 7175 khz LSB which is illegal and it got swept aside for SSTV ops of 14,230. 
It was my intention to make people a little more aware of where they are operating, using their license class priveleges, not whether they are stepping on some gentlemans agreement concerning some mode of transmission.
This is something that the Official Observers (are they still active?) should have ben covering. They used to do this.
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 Originally Posted by KC2UGV
If that's the case, I hereby claim 14.290 as my operating frequency.
I thought you already claimed 27.185 as your calling frequency.
The SSTV freq is a gentlemen's agreement, it congregates the SSTV in one place instead of having it blasting all over the bands. It's a good idea. Try to cooperate with your fellow hams, you're not the only one in the hobby.
FCC Section 97.313(a) “At all times, an amateur station must use the minimum transmitter power necessary to carry out the desired communications.”
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 Originally Posted by KB9BVN
I thought you already claimed 27.185 as your calling frequency.
The SSTV freq is a gentlemen's agreement, it congregates the SSTV in one place instead of having it blasting all over the bands. It's a good idea. Try to cooperate with your fellow hams, you're not the only one in the hobby.
You insult him and then tell him he needs to cooperate with his fellow hams? Oooooooooooooook.
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I don't remember ever talking on 14230, but I have tuned up there before. I didn't know anything about SSTV being on that frequency. Also, the FCC knows that we use LSB on 40m. If we have priveleges at 7175, then that should mean that we can talk on 7175 LSB. 7174 LSB would be below where we can talk.
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