ALMOST got fired!
Yep, I almost joined the ranks of the UNEMPLOYED here recently. ALL because of a misunderstanding on all parts.
A person worked here some time ago, and then, suddenly didn't show up. He couldn't be reached or contacted and didn't reply to emails or calls. I was always very friendly with him and was quite disappointed when he disappeared.
Naturally, the boss and owner were furious about that. There was lots of ranting and raving, and the slack had to be taken up by people not assigned to those duties.
Evidently, there was some personal problems the gent had that pre-empted his job for awhile, and he couldnt do it effectively. I was not involved in any way, but still just a friend.
So, many many months later, he called me up and asked me what the story was. I told him people weren't happy about his disappearance, regardless of the reasons. And well they should be mad! I would fully expect them to be outraged at me if I suddenly disappeared and couldn't be gotten ahold of.
Sounds all logical to me!
So this person contacted the owner to find out why he was "MAD" at him.
The ANGER was quickly diverted to ME, for telling the guy that he was on the S*** LIST!
Well, what did you expect when you are working and suddenly don't show up for the job?
The owner was now MADDER at me for telling the guy he was mad at him, and wanted to FIRE ME on the spot.
But, they couldn't find another Radio Doctor to do my job. Otherwise, I would have been told to GET OUT and take my 500 M-Fing Radios with me!!!!
I feel I did nothing wrong. I just conveyed to a friend that his absence was not appreciated. What did he expect? WHY WAS I in the wrong?
But, with the way things work here in Kalifornia, the BOSS can fire you if you come to work with a TIE he doesn't like. And THAT IS THAT! He can't fire you if you are the wrong gender, the wrong race, the wrong Sexual Preference, the wrong religion or if you are in some other special intererst whiney group. But if you have the wrong color of TIE on, YOU ARE OUTTA HERE!!!!
Being jobless would really suck. In fact, I can't think of anything that would SUCK WORSE! Being that I am completely unemployable, being so OLD, and my industry is so specialized that no one needs me, just like they don't need TV Repairmen, Millkmen or other obsolete jobs. And my health and social skils prohibit just about any other vocation. I would be living under a bridge in the Black Widow Mobile within a month! The house would be repossesed, all the junk radios carted off in a Waste Management DUMPSTER. Even the cats would be chased out of the house to become COYOTE FOOD! So life would really SUCK if I lost this job. And I almost did!
and I thought the subject title was concerning your AC and thermostat!
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Hey, Pat, do you want the boys and me to go "have a talk" with this guy? The boss or the "doghouse man" -- it doesn't matter.
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Sorry to hear about the irrational reaction of your boss. Your friend seems equally strange, but unable to keep quiet when silence is the best option.
It seems to me that, from your point of view, it is your boss's behaviour that is generally unacceptable. Perhaps you should suggest he enrols for an anger management course.
On the other hand, it might be unwise. I wonder how his family life is. Perhaps his bullying behaviour is a reglection of his total impotence at home.
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I'm not sure posting this story on a public board is a good idea. Your boss sounds touchy and if he saw it, well, you can imagine.
I have been fired from 30 or 40 jobs probably, you get used to it. lol. Attitude problems mostly, gee what a shocker.
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The People's Republic of Kalifornia is an "at will employment" state. You are quite correct Pat your boss can fire you and he is not required to give a reason for the firing. Employers are advised NOT to give a reason for termination due to the discrimination laws that have a strangle hold on employers not only here but across the USA.
Over the years I had been contacted four times by ex-coworkers, wanting to know what the "scoop" was my reply has always been "call or come down and ask the boss yourself, the reason you were let go is not only, not known to me but is really none of my business."
I am assuming Ca. is an at will state but if you do give a reason for termination you better be able to back it up even in at at will state.
Employers also need to tread lightly when when firing someone for something that occurs off the work premises unless it can be proved it is detrimental to the company in some way.
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Seems to me we had a thread about a similar topic not too long ago.
To reprise what I remember having said on that one, you have to be REALLY CAREFUL about things like this. The fired guy first talks to you, then he calls your boss and obviously says that he talked to you and you told him yada, yada, yada...
Your boss is probably mad as hell at you for telling the guy anything at all because, if the guy tries to institute litigation for wrongful termination or tries to demand unemployment compensation, the guy can call YOU as a witness for him. That puts you in the very untenable position of having to be, in effect, a witness against your boss. That, you DON'T need.
You live in PRK (People's Republik of Kalifornia) where suing people under any pretext is the official state pastime. Your boss, IIRC, would be what the scumbag trial lawyers (I realize that's redundant) call a "deep pocket" which makes him a prime target for nuisance lawsuits...and you almost handed the disgruntled guy one on a silver platter. Being a business owner in PRK your boss surely knows very well about things like this and wants nothing to do with them.
Hell, if I was your boss I would be mad, too!
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Pat could hit his head and forget what he said.
Originally Posted by K5FH
The bosses crossed the line by discussing personnel issues in public, for which they can be sued. Your discussion of the workplace with another employee who has pending disciplinary issues was at worst unwise.
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