Celebrating A Great Americans Birthday............
Reckon he ever Plagiarized.....
"Nothing ever breaks when you don't need it."
I had no idea MLK day was the same day as REL day!!!! Man, are there going to be some MAD people!!!!
I am mad because I didn't get today off! No MLK day for me!
No REL day either!
Not around these parts, station. His visage is carved on the largest piece of exposed granite in the state of Georgia, not to mention the hundreds of statues of him and other Confederate leaders in just about every courthouse square in the South.
Originally Posted by KV1M
Richard L. Ray
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Chattanooga Amateur Radio Club, Sons of Confederate Veterans
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Yes, Robert E. Lee was a fine American. His cause was a loser.
Originally Posted by w4rlr
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His cause was a "loser" only in the sense that the South lost the war. It can also be argued that the South didn't "lose" in that sense, but instead decided that enough was enough and gave up. If you look at the stats, the Union took a lot more casualties than the Confederacy did.
Originally Posted by K0RGR
The South seceded from the Union in much the same way that the Colonies seceded from Great Britain. Why do we vilify the Confederacy for seceding from the Union but we lionize the Founding Fathers for seceding from Mother England? In both cases the main reason was discontent over economic exploitation.
Had the colonies lost the War for Independence, I'm sure we wouldn't view Jefferson, Madison, et al the way we do today.
Anyway, I'm going to visit Lee Circle in New Orleans today pay homage to the memory of the old general.
Save your Confederate money, boys, 'cause the South shall rise again!
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy. – Hamlet, Scene V by William Shakespeare (1564 – 1616)
"For your own good" is a persuasive argument that will eventually make a man agree to his own destruction. - Janet Frame (1924 - 2004)
Words ought to be a little wild, for they are the assault of thoughts on the unthinking. - Arthur Schopenhauer (1788 - 1860)
Yep, the "revolution" had nothing to do with all the hifalutin' stuff; it was the work of a bunch of rich boys who didn't like paying taxes.
Originally Posted by k5fh
Funny how nothing changes.
Last edited by ZL3GSL; 01-20-2009 at 02:18 AM.
Yeah but you guys still lost the war.
Originally Posted by w4rlr
Funny you should mention the word "exploitation". I think the vilification comes from any attempt at defending actions for continuing an economy that was rooted deeply in the forced migration and exploitation of human beings.
Originally Posted by K5FH
Let's call slavery for what it is; one of the biggest blights on the history of this nation. I think that's what pisses people off when you start mentioning the Confederacy. As romantic and wonderful the cessations of the southern states were, and really fundamentally as "American" as the Revolution itself, you just can't remove the stain of slavery.