Fedora 6 ??

[KA5LQJ]

Hi Guys! #

I hope everyone had a good Turkey Day. #I know I did and didn't stuff myself.

I bought a Fedora 6 & Redhat Enterprise Linux Bible, by Christopher Negus. #Naturally, my luck, the cd didn't install the program. #Friend of mine, burned 8 cd's that did work and I have it on a 15 gig hd. #I did it this weekend, so I haven't had time to read ALL that "Bible". #But, has anyone had any luck running this version?

There is no LUG here and the closest is Baton Rouge, but they're into other weird distro's...Xandros, Mephis, etc.

I want to personally, Thank all of you who have helped, made suggestions, etc. to me. #I wished I could repay the kindness. #While it may not be PC (politically correct), I pray GOD BLESS each one of you and yours, keep you safe, healthy, and prosperous.

Joyeäux Noél et Heureux Année Nouveaux du Luzianne!
(Merry Christmas & Happy New Year from Louisiana&#33

Respectfully submitted,
73,

Don/KA5-LQJ

[N2IZE]

FC6 , yeah I was running it for a while. It worked pretty good. I'm running FC7 now, upgraded last winter.

[WA7KKP]

Bienvenue, mon ami:

I use SuSE10.x right now, and it is very similar to RH Fedora. As you will learn, the basic Linux distro is much like GM cars; you can buy one basic design with different names on the hood but underneath they all have the same pieces.

Just keep fiddling around, and surf the web. Learning the CLI commands can be a bit daunting, if you've learned the MS-DOS style commands and philosophy, which have to be erased from your memory between your ears.

Using the applications without printed documentation is like navigating New York City without a map, but given time and curiosity, you can read online documentation, or whatever may be bundled into your distro, and the man pages for CLI commands.

Having someone to show you the basics really helps -- maybe someone from a close-by LUG can come over and spend an afternoon to give you a cram course.

In my case, I did it all on my own, and consider myself a super-user who isn't afraid to do some peeking into the various directories, etc. I was prepped on an Amiga which has a quasi-Unix architecture, and that made the transition a bit easier for me.

Joyeux Noel, et a bientot (sorry no accents)

Gary WA7KKP

[K3WRV]

IMHO, one of the biggest problems Linux Nubi's have is understanding the file system. In DOS/WIN, we have A:\ for the floppy and C:\ (and maybe D:&#92 for the hard disks and ?:\ for the CDROM Drive, USB drive, and whatever. We don't have that in Linux ( for the Nubi's)

In Linux, "everything is a file" (including your CPU&#33, and different physical devices (the Floppy for example) are "mounted" somewhere in the file system. For example, your floppy might be "/media/floppy" and you're second hard disk might be "/mnt/Win".

And all (or most) of your commands are in /bin, which is in your path so you never have to go looking for a command. Just type it in. (There are some special commands in /sbin and you'll need to type the full path because /sbin isn't normally in your path). (All Linux files are mounted with respect to "/" (pronounced "root&quot. So /media/floppy really means, starting with root, look for the media directory and then for the floppy subdirectory.

Another common problem is finding files. To find a file called "foo", just type "locate *foo*". (The first asterisk is so that it will pick up /home/docs/foo, or whatever comes before "foo". (locate uses a databsae of all files on your system to find the file and may miss stuff on removable media like floppies, USB drives, and CDROMS). Also realize that unlike DOS/Win, Linux is case sensitive. Hence Foo != foo != FOO, etc!

Another useful command is find (as in find / -name *foo*) which takes longer than locate because it actually searches the disk instead of using a database).

Fedora installs a LOT of documentation on your machine for help with a command, "man foo", "info foo", or (and Don, being a French speaking Cajun will love this one) "apropos foo" should turn up something. Another good source of help are the "HOWTO"s, although some are a bit out of date. For example, there's a ham radio HOWTO, and a dos2lin or win2lin howto that will help translate some of the commands. If not installed, these may be on one of your install disks or are probably available on the web.

de Bob

[KA5LQJ]

Hi All,

First, let me personally Thank Bob, K3-WRV, for his help in e-mailing me direct and giving me some help in getting Fedora Core 6 "off the ground".

Unfortunatly, one of the LUGS....Shreveport/Bossier Linux User's Group (SBLUG) went MIA and those that KNEW Linux, had the, Read the book..No one helped me and I'm not helping you either! attitude. The other local LUG at LSU-Shreveport, does not help anyone who is not registered at LSU-S. A "pox" on them, LOL! As far as I know the closest LUG would be the one in Baton Rouge and they're off into other distro's...Xandro's, Mepis, etc.

I'm going to take the "Fedora Core 6 *Bible*" and go through it looking for "answers". I think I've got all of Core 6 on a 15 gig Maxtor HD. I don't think I need SAMBA, APACHE, or anything fancy. Just something to do e-mail, browse the web, and play and burn (data) cd's.

Yesterday, Saturday, I went out to the local NOAA Wx Service office to take in Skywarn Appreciation Day. They had some guys that came over from Longview, Tx. about 60 miles West of Shreveport and a couple of guys from Mansfield, Tx. and Gary, WQ5-FWC, out of Venus Tx (EM-12) and brought lots of HF gear and a trailered tower that raises and lowers with an electrical wench and gasoline electric generator, part of the Gregg County Emergency Communications Group (GCEC).

One of the guys from Mansfield (Rick, I think) brought he Dell laptop with a Wi-Fi card and a program calledHam Radio Deluxe. All of then said I could run my Icom 706MkII-G through my Athlon 1.2 gig with the WIN 2000 Pro with no trouble. Rick and Gary gave me a "demonstration" of what it would do and I found out the database builds an Excel spreadsheet/database, just exactly as I need. WOW!

I think I'll download it on the 78 gig Maxtor WIN drive and use it. The author said on the HRD site that he doesn't plan on ever "porting" it to Linux or a Mac. But, if I'm not mistaken, he gives you the "code" in the software, so some "genius" could do the same thing and help those hams who use Linux to enjoy it too. The WIN HRD software is completely FREE. The price is right, LOL!

Well, I need to go back to bed.

Blessings,
73,
Don/KA5-LQJ

[W6TMI]

Quote[/b] (k3wrv @ Dec. 01 2007,05:05)]IMHO, one of the biggest problems Linux Nubi's have is understanding the file system. In DOS/WIN, we have A:\ for the floppy and C:\ (and maybe D:&#92 for the hard disks and ?:\ for the CDROM Drive, USB drive, and whatever. We don't have that in Linux ( for the Nubi's)

In Linux, "everything is a file" (including your CPU&#33, and different physical devices (the Floppy for example) are "mounted" somewhere in the file system. For example, your floppy might be "/media/floppy" and you're second hard disk might be "/mnt/Win".

And all (or most) of your commands are in /bin, which is in your path so you never have to go looking for a command. Just type it in. (There are some special commands in /sbin and you'll need to type the full path because /sbin isn't normally in your path). (All Linux files are mounted with respect to "/" (pronounced "root&quot. So /media/floppy really means, starting with root, look for the media directory and then for the floppy subdirectory.

Another common problem is finding files. To find a file called "foo", just type "locate *foo*". (The first asterisk is so that it will pick up /home/docs/foo, or whatever comes before "foo". (locate uses a databsae of all files on your system to find the file and may miss stuff on removable media like floppies, USB drives, and CDROMS). Also realize that unlike DOS/Win, Linux is case sensitive. Hence Foo != foo != FOO, etc!

Another useful command is find (as in find / -name *foo*) which takes longer than locate because it actually searches the disk instead of using a database).

Fedora installs a LOT of documentation on your machine for help with a command, "man foo", "info foo", or (and Don, being a French speaking Cajun will love this one) "apropos foo" should turn up something. Another good source of help are the "HOWTO"s, although some are a bit out of date. For example, there's a ham radio HOWTO, and a dos2lin or win2lin howto that will help translate some of the commands. If not installed, these may be on one of your install disks or are probably available on the web.

de Bob

Another gotcha is "cd'ing" to a directory and assuming that an executable will run when you types it's name. Short of having a path to ./, you must specify ./file to run it.

Usually if you are logged in as root, you have a path to sbin.

Only time I've usually seen a problem with that is Solaris, the ping command is there, not accessable to non superuser.