OS X 10.5

[KA8NCR]

One word: Schwing!

It's that good. DVD came today, 35 minutes to upgrade and I can't imagine life without "stacks". No, not the cheerleader...

[N9SLE]

OOH boy... I can't wait to upgrade. Of course, I must wait until my company's VPN software has been appropriately tested with Leopard before I dive in. Last time I upgraded from 10.3 to 10.4 I was weeks without IPSEC VPN.

Glad to hear your upgrade went well, that gives me hope

73,

[KC9ECI]

MacOS 10.5 Leopard Phones Home, Reveals Little Snitch 2

http://www.empowerthyself.com/leopardphoneshome

Quote[/b] ]Apple's Mac OS 10.5 Leopard 'loginwindow' process phones home to lcs.mac.com on port 443 which is only revealed by running the new Little Snitch 2 security monitoring tool.

[KL1ZB]

Quote[/b] (KC9ECI @ Nov. 06 2007,17:36)]MacOS 10.5 Leopard Phones Home, Reveals Little Snitch 2

http://www.empowerthyself.com/leopardphoneshome

Quote[/b] ]Apple's Mac OS 10.5 Leopard 'loginwindow' process phones home to lcs.mac.com on port 443 which is only revealed by running the new Little Snitch 2 security monitoring tool.

If you count the loginwidow.app sending USERNAME and PASSWORD data to Apple so the machine can log into Apple's .Mac service "phoning home".
.Mac is a subscription online service you have to sign up for AND turn on.

How else would you recommend Apple do this??? Should they just turn off all authentication to its online service so anyone can access private e-mail/webpages/data?

That blog is nothing but FUD and a lame ad for a crappy shareware program.

[KD8COO]

I've been running 10.5 for a week now, and overall I like it. The translucent system bar is a little annoying at times (depending on what's behind it), but all the other UI stuff is good. Only major problem is that if I have TimeMachine enabled, the computer crashes every couple of hours. TimeMachine off, and all's well. Hoping 10.5.1 fixes that!

[N6HCM]

i haven't loaded leopard on any of my main systems yet. works just fine on the mac mini in the kitchen. this update took a long time but i'm pretty sure this has to do with the size of the update and the speed of the disk in the mac mini.

my powerbook has to wait until the wwan software that i use is leopard-ready, which should be in a week or two.

[AB8XA]

I'm running 10.5 on both my Mini (at work) and MacBook (at home) on two 160GB external drives in OWC Mercury On-The-Go Firewire/USB cases. #This way, I still have the operational 10.4 drives in place. #Once 10.5 is the way I want it and does everything I need, I can physically swap them with the 120GB and 80GB in the Mini and MacBook.

Stacks are kinda cool, but functionally, not a lot different than having folder aliases in the Dock. #To get icons on the stack folders, like I had with aliases, I put a zero-bite text file in each, named "---" with the folder icon from the original folder copied and pasted to the zero-length files in Get Info. #This puts the zero-length file first in Applications and Documents, which are sorted alphabetically. #In Downloads, the icon only shows when that folder is empty, since that folder is sorted by date and "---" is the oldest file in it.

The new Mail and Calendar .apps broke Tiger's compatibility with Lotus/Domino meeting invitations, which used to show up in Calendar Notifications. #Now all I get is the .ics file attachment in Mail and if I double-click it, it goes into the first calendar in Calendar.app, with no way to change it to another calendar (the Inspector window is very limited), OR to reply Accept or Decline to the person who sent the meeting invitation. #Cutting and pasting the appointment changes the Inspector window to the full one you see for your own appointments. #Bottomline is that to use 10.5 in my environment means I'll have to go back to using Lotus Notes/Mac. #That sucks! #I also prefer the old slide-out in Tiger to the new Inspector, but can get used to the new format. #This isn't an improvement for me!

I also don't care for RSS and Reminders in Mail. #If you get rid of the default RSS feed (not the same as the ones in Safari), that "mailbox" disappears. #But the reminders mailbox seems to persist and I don't know if or how to get rid of it.

I've run into some problems I didn't see with either Safari 2 or beta 3 on a couple of websites.

.Mac (essential for synching my Address Book and Calendars) and iWeb continue to work as always. The initial difference was that, by default in 10.5, mounted network drives don't show up on the desktop. #That can be changed.

Not using Time Machine, 10.5 is mainly eye-candy for me. #It does seem more responsive than Tiger, but that's without any scientific measurements.

[KA8NCR]

Quote[/b] (KD8COO @ Nov. 10 2007,07:16)]I've been running 10.5 for a week now, and overall I like it. The translucent system bar is a little annoying at times (depending on what's behind it), but all the other UI stuff is good. Only major problem is that if I have TimeMachine enabled, the computer crashes every couple of hours. TimeMachine off, and all's well. Hoping 10.5.1 fixes that!

There's an article on ARS Technica that'll tell you how to go back to the old-style dock. I had to do that for my son's Mini, drove him nuts - he's such a minimalist.

[KA8NCR]

Quote[/b] (AB8XA @ Nov. 11 2007,07:20)]I'm running 10.5 on both my Mini (at work) and MacBook (at home) on two 160GB external drives in OWC Mercury On-The-Go Firewire/USB cases. This way, I still have the operational 10.4 drives in place. Once 10.5 is the way I want it and does everything I need, I can physically swap them with the 120GB and 80GB in the Mini and MacBook.

Stacks are kinda cool, but functionally, not a lot different than having folder aliases in the Dock. To get icons on the stack folders, like I had with aliases, I put a zero-bite text file in each, named "---" with the folder icon from the original folder copied and pasted to the zero-length files in Get Info. This puts the zero-length file first in Applications and Documents, which are sorted alphabetically. In Downloads, the icon only shows when that folder is empty, since that folder is sorted by date and "---" is the oldest file in it.

The new Mail and Calendar .apps broke Tiger's compatibility with Lotus/Domino meeting invitations, which used to show up in Calendar Notifications. Now all I get is the .ics file attachment in Mail and if I double-click it, it goes into the first calendar in Calendar.app, with no way to change it to another calendar (the Inspector window is very limited), OR to reply Accept or Decline to the person who sent the meeting invitation. Cutting and pasting the appointment changes the Inspector window to the full one you see for your own appointments. Bottomline is that to use 10.5 in my environment means I'll have to go back to using Lotus Notes/Mac. That sucks! I also prefer the old slide-out in Tiger to the new Inspector, but can get used to the new format. This isn't an improvement for me!

I also don't care for RSS and Reminders in Mail. If you get rid of the default RSS feed (not the same as the ones in Safari), that "mailbox" disappears. But the reminders mailbox seems to persist and I don't know if or how to get rid of it.

I've run into some problems I didn't see with either Safari 2 or beta 3 on a couple of websites.

.Mac (essential for synching my Address Book and Calendars) and iWeb continue to work as always. The initial difference was that, by default in 10.5, mounted network drives don't show up on the desktop. That can be changed.

Not using Time Machine, 10.5 is mainly eye-candy for me. It does seem more responsive than Tiger, but that's without any scientific measurements.

The thing I like most is Coverflow and the ability to look into documents within the folder. That's just the coolest thing; identify what I'm seeing and if it's a PDF or document, read it there. If it's a video, watch it.

Sure, Vista allows you to do something similar -- but only with your open applications, not the entire filesystem.

[KD4WUO]

OK my mac friends. I need some help! I would love to use my macbook with packet. Anyone know of a TNC that has a USB interface? All the ones I see are still serial, and as you know the macbook has none. I know I may be able to use a USB to serial converter, but would like to find a USB powered TNC for mobile packet.

Also do any of you have any packet success stories? What software are you using?

Thanks and 73