The following is a QST. A report says that New York City's communications infrastructure cannot handle another 911; ham radio faces hurricane Felix, NATO chimes in on BPL and President Bush declares September as National Preparedness Month. Find out more on Amateur Radio Newsline™ report number 1569 coming your way right now.
RESCUE RADIO: NYC IS NOT PREPARED FOR ANOTHER 911
The communications infrastructure of New York City is not prepared to face another 911 attack or any other truly catastrophic event. This is the conclusion one reaches early on when reading the article Emergency Comms in New York City by John Kasupski, KC2HMZ. It's in the September issue of Popular Communications magazine. Bill Pasternak, WA6ITF, takes a look at what the author has to say:
In his article John Kasupski asks a rhetorical question. Would the vital police, fire and E-M-S personnel responding to such an incident be any better off in their communications capabilities today than they were six years ago? He answers the question by stating that as of this past June the evidence suggests that they would not be any better off than they were on September 11, 2001.
The article cites the results of an investigation by WABC television reporter N.J. Burkett. Among the things Burkett discovered was that a battery back-up system for the New York fire department radio system was supposed to last 24 hours. It didn't. And the emergency 911 call system bogged down after a 2006 power failure. Priority callers had to wait up to 20 minutes to get a response.
Interoperability with adjoining communities also remains a problem. A quoted report from WCBS news said that even though New York City has an 800 MHz radio system, the current approach for providing communications between the city and its neighboring counties remains the telephone. And that’s unreliable for a number of reasons, not the least of which is that no one particular agency seems to have current phone number to reach its counterpart in an adjacent community.
Kasupski's article is a graphic lesson on how local politicians have completely failed to bring the city's emergency response radio system into line with the times we live in. It should also serve as a reminder to radio amateurs in the metro New York metro area as why they need to be ready to respond at a moments notice.
If all that John Kasupski, KC2HMZ, states in his article is correct, then the City of New York is still totally reliant on hams in time of crisis even thought that fact won't be realized until the time comes for them to respond.
History does seem to have a way of repeating itself.
For the Amateur Radio Newsline, I'm Bill Pasternak, WA6ITF, originally from the City of New York and now in the studio in Los Angeles.
You can read John Kasupski's story on the emergency communications problems facing the New York City beginning on page 15 of the September issue of Popular Communications magazine. (ARNewsline™)
RESCUE RADIO: HURRICANE FELIX SLAMS NICARAGUA
There have been more busy days for hams across the Caribbean and in Central America. This as Hurricane Felix slammed into Nicaragua, on Tuesday, September 4th .
Packing 160 mph winds, the storm peeled roofs off buildings, knocked down utility poles and damaged upward of 5,000 homes near Puerto Cabezas. Virtually all normal lines of communications were knocked out and again it became a case of Amateur Radio being on the front line:
Audio of XE2WCG reporting hospital closure due to flooding and missing sailors. Hear it by downloading this weeks audio newscast at www.arnewsline.org.
That report was relayed over the Voice over I P Hurricane Watch Net. Ham radio operators also used it to relay storm reports back to the National Hurricane Center in Miami.
Audio of XE2WCG reporting high winds and rising river in northern Nicaragua. Hear it by downloading this weeks audio newscast at www.arnewsline.org.
At least three people were killed and thousands forced to seek shelter as Felix pushed over Nicaragua and Honduras. Despite quickly diminishing from a Category 5 hurricane to a tropical depression, Felix sparked fears torrential rains and wide spread flooding. At least 8 to 12 inches of rain were expected across much of Nicaragua and El Salvador, with 10 to 15 inches forecast for Honduras. Hams across the area say that they will remain on alert until the 2007 hurricane season has passed. (ARNewsline™ with audio supplied by KD1CY)
RESCUE RADIO: SEPTEMBER IS NATIONAL PREPAREDNESS MONTH
Meantime, President George W. Bush has proclaimed September as National Preparedness Month. In making his announcement the President called on all U.S. citizens to recognize the importance of being ready for potential emergencies. He also asked citizens to observe this month by participating in appropriate events, activities, and preparedness programs.
The President went on to say that protecting America's homeland and its citizens is the shared responsibility of the entire Nation. He said that individuals can prepare themselves and their families for emergencies by taking simple steps such as organizing an emergency supply kit, making a personal preparedness plan, becoming informed about different threats, and getting involved in preparing their community. The President says that these activities create a culture of preparedness and can help save lives.
For our world of Amateur Radio, the Presidents words have special meaning. This is because ham radio continues to prove its worth each time a disaster situation brings down a regions established communications infrastructure. Being non-centralized and having no common point of failure means that ham radio emergency communications can continue to operate when all else fails as it did on 9 11 2001 in New York and two years ago in New Orleans during and after Hurricane Katrina. (Published news reports)
THE BPL FIGHT: NATO REPORT ON EFFECTS OF BPL RELEASED
NATO, the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, has issued a report of the anticipated effects that widespread implementation of Broadband over Powerline communications technology would have on the High Frequency spectrum..
Particular emphasis is placed on ambient noise in "quite rural" zones and the "Absolute Protection Requirement". Among the conclusion that the report reaches are that there is a high probability that BPL would cause increased noise levels at sensitive receiver sites given the projected market penetration. Also, the percentages are highly influenced by assumptions on transmitter power level, market penetration, and duty cycle.
The entire report can be downloaded at http://ftp.rta.nato.int/public. One warning though. The file in PDF format is about 9 megabytes in size. (WIA, Southgate)
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ENFORCEMENT: TWO POWER UTILITIES CITED FOR INTEFERENCE TO TEXAS HAM
The Federal Communication Commission's Dallas Field Office has issued Citations to two utilities in a longstanding power line noise case in Lubbock, Texas. Amateur Radio Newsline's Don Carlson, KQ6FM, reports:
Bryan Edwards, W5KFT, of Lubbock, first reported the interference claiming interference from two utilities in early 1994. The alleged sources were electric providers Lubbock Power & Light and Xcel Energy. Since then it has been an up-hill battle for Edwards, but a pair of citations issued to the energy providers by the FCC this past July 25th may now bring the entire matter to a head.
According to an ARRL bulletin, the citations issues say that an investigation conducted by the Dallas FCC office was conducted this past May 22nd to the 25th . That it found both utilities had caused harmful interference to the reception of amateur communications to W5KFT. The FCC then directed both utilities to provide documents and information within 10 days of their respective citations.
In its undated response Lubbock Power & Light stated that it does not admit to and specifically denies any violation of the Communications Act or any rule pertaining thereto.
Xcel's response was far more positive. It pointed out that the citation acknowledges that the source of harmful interference is from more than one power company. Xcel also claims that it 'has been working with a Edwards for a number of years in an effort to identify the source of, and a possible resolution for, the interference he is experiencing. Xcel Energy says that it has a good working relationship with Edwards and has coordinated with him on numerous occasions in attempting to resolve his interference problems.
Xcel then stated its intention to retain an outside technical consultant to provide an unbiased assessment of whether the harmful interference to W5KFT is attributable to Xcel Energy's power system and if so, what corrective measures would be required. And even before the ink was dry on its response, it acted.
On August 30th Edwards reported that he received a phone call from Paul Leonard, head of Xcel Energy in West Texas. Edwards said he was told that Xcel has contracted with Mike Martin, K3RFI, of RFI Services to come to Lubbock in October to work on locating the source of the line noise.
Xcel Energy's Leonard added that his company tried to get Lubbock Power & Light to participate with them, but they refused. At airtime, what measures Lubbock Power & Light may take to solve the interference its lines are causing to Edwards operations is unknown.
For the Amateur Radio Newsline, I'm Don Casrlson, KQ6FM, in Reno.
According to the ARRL, Mike Martin's firm RFI Services is dedicated exclusively to RFI locating and training. Martin has been locating interference sources for more than 25 years, solving an average of 500 complaints a year. K3RFI has also given power line interference workshops at ARRL Headquarters (ARRL)
ENFORCEMENT: SHARPLES WITHDRAWS HAM LICENSE APPLICATION
The FCC has issued an Order of Dismissal and Termination to Florida resident Jack R. Sharples for an Amateur Radio license. This, after accepting his voluntary termination of his application.
Back in May of this year the FCC had designated Sharples application for an administrative hearing. This based on evidence it had showing that Sharples was a convicted felon and registered sexual predator. The FCC said that the felony conviction was for at least one sex related offense involving a child. As such it raised material and substantial questions as to whether Sharples held the requisite character qualifications to be a Commission licensee.
Sharples was given 20 days from the date of the Hearing Designation Order being issued to respond. He did so on June 19th with a filing to the presiding Administrative Law Judge. In it Sharples gave his reasons for filing an Amateur Radio license even in light of his felony convictions. The FCC considered this response to be a good faith Notice of Appearance by Sharples.
But on June 27th it appears as if Sharples changed his mind. On that date he sent a FAX to the presiding Administrative Law Judge. In it he voluntarily withdrew his Amateur Radio license application. The FCC dismissed his application on August 1st . (FCC)
ENFORCEMENT: FCC DISMISES CASTLE RENEWAL APPLICATION
The FCC has dismissed the license renewal application of David O. Castle, WA9KJI. This, after the former Evansville, Indiana, ham failed to request a written appearance before an Administrative Law Judge and also did not appear at a pre-hearing conference in Washington, D. C. on August 13th .
According to the FCC, the agency had designated Castle's license renewal for a hearing last May 24th . This, based on the years of complaints it has received regarding his on the air operation. The FCC says that since 1998, Castle had been warned repeatedly to refrain from intentionally interfering with radio communications; broadcasting without communicating with any particular station; causing interference on amateur repeaters; using amateur repeaters without authorization, and using indecent, slanderous or harassing language.
When Castle filed to renew his license the FCC instead set the request aside and issued a Hearing Designation Order. In it, the FCC stated that it found Castle's continuing course of conduct raised questions as to whether he possesses the requisite character qualifications to remain a Commission licensee. (FCC)
ENFORCEMENT: L.A. HAMS TOLD TO STAY OFF K6GE REPEATER
The FCC has ordered two Los Angeles area hams to stay off of an area repeater. In August 23rd letters to ,Norman Ball, KE6VWN, of Sunland, and Richard Martin, KE6RJI, of Maywood, California, the FCC warned both hams to avoid using the K6GE repeater or face punitive action,
According to the FCC, both hams had been requested by the repeater operator to refrain from using the K6GE system. The regulatory agency says that both hams apparently ignored both verbal and written requests to do so. Now they have been told that they could wind up facing fines of up to $10,000 if they ignore the FCC's order to keep off of the K6GE machine. (FCC)
COMMUNICATIONS LAW: NPRM TO ALLOW THE USE OF FM TRANSLATORS BY AM STATIONS
Here's a follow-up to a story regarding translators in the broadcast spectrum. Back on July 14, 2006, the National Association of Broadcasters filed a Petition for Rulemaking with the FCC. One proposing that the Commission amend its rules to allow AM broadcast stations to operate FM translator stations as a fill-in service.
The CGC Communicator reports that the FCC received over 500 comments with overwhelming support for the proposal. So now the FCC is proposing rules permitting the use of FM translators by AM stations and has issued an NPRM that examines the issues related to such a rule change. This includes the issue of program origination at night over FM translators used by daytime-only AM stations. (CGC)
THE SOCIAL SCENE: PEORIA SUPERFEST - SEPTEMBER 15 - 16
Turning to the ham radio social scene, the Peoria Superfest is slated for September 15th and 16th at the Exposition Gardens, Peoria Illinois. This show is best known for its great flea market. More information is on the web at www.peoriasuperfest.com (Via e-mail)
THE SOCIAL SCENE: 2007 AMSAT SPACE SYMPOSIUM - OCT 26 - 28
And his years AMSAT Space Symposium will take place on October 26th to the 28th in Pennsylvania. The venue is the Airport Mariott Hotel in Coraopolis with Sy Liebergot as the keynote Speaker is. Liebergot is the project Apollo Electrical, Environmental, Consumables Flight Controller. More information about this years AMSAT Space Symposium is on-line at the U-R-L in this weeks printed Newsline report.
(DO NOT READ: For general club information about the 2007 AMSAT Space symposium, visit www.amsat.org or http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/symposium/2007/index.php (AMSAT)
MAMES IN THE NEWS: KB2GSD NAMED LIFETIME MEMBER OF RCA
Some names in the news. The Radio Club of America has conferred Honorary Membership on retired CBS newsman Walter Cronkite, KB2GSD.
In making the announcement, Craig Jorgensen, chairman of the club's Membership Committee, said that Cronkite was selected for three reasons. First, that Walter Cronkite represents excellence in broadcasting and journalistic achievement. Second, that KB2GSD has worked to promote amateur radio which Jorgenson cites as an important segment of the clubs membership and one that fosters advancement of the radio art. Lastly, that Cronkite has encouraged young people to take up an interest in radio communications.
Honorary membership is the highest distinction given by the Radio Club of America. In its nearly 99-year history, the club has given out only 26 honorary memberships. (RCA)
NAMES IN THE NEWS: W6DWI NEW NCS FOR NORCAL 2 METER SSB NET
Robin Whiting, W6DWI, who has become the new Net Control station of the famed NORCAL 2m SSB Net. This long standing gathering is held every Thursday 8:00 p.m.. Pacific on 144.250 MHz using upper sideband.
W6DWI is located in Woodland, California in grid square C M 98 d q. He says he will begin taking early check-ins starting about 7:50 p.m.. Also, he plans to use the same roll call in the same order as his predecessor Paul I Hammer, KA6CHJ.
If you are in the Northern California area and in earshot of the net, you are invited to drop by. (VHF Reflector)
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EMERGING TECHNOLOGY: NEW FIREPROOF LI ON BATTERIES
New lithium-ion batteries being developed for hybrid electric automobiles may hold promise as a dependable high power source of emergency communications power. This, as A123 Systems of Watertown, Massachusetts announces a new type of high power lithium ion cell not prone to the fire hazards associated with current batteries.
Although the lithium-ion cells you see in laptops and mobile phones pack twice as much energy per pound as any other current battery, they have not been adopted for hybrid cars and other power demanding uses because they are worryingly prone to fires. But A123 believes it has solved the fire potential problem with a new lithium-ion design that utilizes a special formulation for the battery's cathode.
Lithium Ion battery fires seem to begin when a small manufacturing defect, perhaps compounded by overcharging, causes oxygen to separate from the cathode. As the cell overheats, it can prime oxidation in neighboring cells, a process known as thermal runaway. A123 overcomes the problem by making its cathodes out of iron phosphate, which bonds to the oxygen far more powerfully than does the cobalt dioxide found in conventional lithium-ion batteries. So its cells are theoretically far less subject to oxidation, and thus less prone to thermal runaway.
A123's batteries are already in use in other applications demanding a combination of power and safety. More on these new lithium ion batteries is on-line at www.a123systems.com/ (IEEE Spectrum via Science OnLine.)
ON THE WWW: NEW GRIDFINDER AT QRZ.COM
The popular QRZ.com website has added a new feature. It's called GridFinder and it can be used to determine the Grid and latitude and longitude coordinates for just about any point on the planet. Check it out at www.qrz.com/gridfinder (QRZ)
ON THE WWW: VHF DATABASE UPDATES IN OCTOBER
DL8EBW says via the VHF Reflector that the next issue of the VHF-Database will be on-line in October. This on-line facility provides information on 51011 data entries of interest to those who operate the world above 50 MHz. You will find it on-line at www.mmmonvhf.de (VHF Reflector)
HAM RADIO IN SPACE: PACKET RETURNS TO THE ISS
Some good news from Earth orbit. Packet is once again on the air from the International Space Station.
The first beacon was reported at 2110 UTC on Tuesday, September 4th by JH4XSY in Japan on 145.825 Simplex. A bit later at 2136 UTC WA4AEJ had an APRS confirmation from R0ISS.
Ken Ransom, N5VHO is the I-S-S Ham Radio Project Engineer. He says that we will all have to watch and see how long the packet system stays active. (ARISS)
HAM RADIO IN SPACE: FIRST EVER ARISS CONTACT WITH SCHOOL IN CHINA
Add China to the list of nations whose school students have now talked to an Astronaut and ham aboard the International Space Station.
On Sunday, August 26th some twenty students Nanjing No. 3 High School got the chance to speak with astronaut and ham radio operator Clay Anderson, KD5PLA. Questions were asked and answered as approximately 300 students and parents looked on. (ANS)
HAM RADIO IN SPACE: CREATING A NEW SATELLITE IOTA AWARD
Eric Christensen,W4OTN, is proposing creating a Satellite Islands on the Air) award. Christsensen, who serves as AMSAT Area Coordinator for Southeastern Virginia, is currently soliciting comments to support his request to the Islands on the Air Board of Directors. If you are interested in supporting this new award, please submit your comments to W4OTN at http://eric-sparks.blogspot.com/2007....on.html (AMSAT)
WORLDBEAT - BELGIUM: COMMEMORATIING THE WW II RESISTANCE
The Radio club de Binche activated the special call sign ON4WAR on September 2nd . This, to pay tribute to the Belgian Resistance during WW II. As a part of the celebration. Vintage rigs such as Paraset were used to transmit in CW on the 7MHz band from the Refuge B40 in Waudrez. Some transmissions in SSB were also made in the 7 MHz band. A special QSL card will be issued for those who made contact during this event. More info is on the web at www.on7ry.be. (Southgate)
WORLDBEAT - CANADA: BRITISH COLUMBIA SM VOTEING EXTENDED 10 DAYS
Radio Amateurs of Canada has announced that the deadline for receipt of returned ballots in the current British Columbia Section Manager election has been extended by ten days to 1200 EDST, September 30, 2007. This change has been made to address uncontrollable and unforeseen circumstances that caused a delay in the mailing of ballots to those members who are qualified to vote in this election. (RAC)
WORLDBEAT - FRANCE: FRENCH HAMS SEEK 3.4 GHZ
France's TDF VHF and Microwave Group is submitting a request for a small ham radio allocation in the 3.4 GHz region. This is a parcel of spectrum from which they are currently banned.
In IARU Regions 2 and 3 which encompass Americas and the Pacific, 3400 to 3410 MHz is available for both the Amateur Radio and Amateur Satellite Services. And while many countries in ITU Region 1 have also allocated this segment to the Amateur Radio Service, it is currently not available for the Amateur Satellite Service nor is it available for terrestrial use by hams in France. (Southgate)
WORLDBEAT - INDIA: INDIA'S HAMS CELEBRATE NATIONS 60 YEARS OF INDEPENDENCE
To celebrate 60 years of India's independence, the special call sign AT60MY is being used by members of the National Institute of Amateur Radio. Operation is from the city of Hyderabad. QSL Via VU2NRO (OPDX)
WORLDBEAT - MALAYSIA: HAMS CELEBRATE NATIONS 50 YEARS OF INDEPENDENCE
Radio amateurs in Malaysia celebrated 50 years of that nations independence. This, with a nationwide field day on 30th August to 1st September.
Known as the Merdeka Field Day, the celebration saw 16 stations operating in cities and in jungle areas. All participating stations were issued with special 9M50M series callsigns. More information about this event is on-line at www.marts.my. (Southgate)
In D-X, DL5ME and DG3HWO will be active as SD7ME from Oland Island through September 11th . They will operate CW and SSB on 40, 30, 20 and 17 meters. QSL to SD7ME at his address on qrz.com.
Also, HA4XG will be active from Greece on the HF bands plus 6 and 2 meters through September 14th . QSL via home call, either direct or via the bureau.
And word that DD1MAT,will operate holiday style portable 9A from Dugi Otok until the 15th of September. QSL via his home call.
Lastly ZL1AMO, plans to operate holiday style from Lifuka Tonga until September 16th . He hopes to have his old A35EA call sign renewed for this operation. Please QSL as directed on the air.
(Above from variou DX news sources)
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"......the City of New York is still totally reliant on hams in time of crisis even thought that fact won't be realized until the time comes for them to respond"
"totally reliant on hams"?
What arrogance. I guess it has been a week or so since we had a #"only ham emcomm super-heros can save society" article. I guess we were overdue.
NYC has taken BIG steps:
1) Tagging PS cellphones with "priority" tags so that key personnell can get through in an overload condition;
2) Upgrading all PS communications equipment with digital, remotly reporgrammable and steerable radios (that hams can't interface with because it is APCO 25 and not D-star);
3) Buying portable "suitcase" repeaters that are quickly and easily deployable by NON-technical people;
4) Other non-public changes and system hardening.
But alas, unless/until they recognize that ONLY emcomm super-hero hams can save the world (and put hams in charge) NYC will "never" really be ready. Afterall, ONLY hams know anything and ONLY hams can do anything and ONLY hams can save society.
Uhhh Huh. Sure.
Articles like this only serve to widen the rift . They give the PS people reason to EXCLUDE you emcomm super-heros. NOBODY wants a cocky, overconfident, arrogant know-it-all in an emergency situation. If only you emcomm super-heros had a clue.
Unless batteries are maintainable (not sealed, or valve-regulated types) such that electrolyte can be evaluated, they're chancy at best. #And, for those that are, actual time-discharge tests must be done to prove their energy capacity at specified discharge rates. #If not, well, you don't know what you have in A-Hr capability.
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Not surprising, its a shared system. #Overloaded by users.
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Now, this is interesting. #Despite the FCC (and Motorola and M/A Comm) jumping up and down about Interoperability via 700MHz and such, they remain an island among themselves.
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As to Jonathan's claims about agility, that's true only for personalities and groups among a given set of frequencies assigned to a given trunked system. #Oh, but maybe mobiles have room for a hundred pre-programmed frequencies and zillions of personalities.
Too #many combinations. #Also, on loss of the trunking controller and all trunked sites in soft-fail mode, units within a zone can talk to each other. #But, not outside. #Suitcase repeaters? #As in powered by what? #And, without a pneumatic multi-section pumped up mast, pretty hard to get much or a signal out as well. #And, how do the suitcase repeaters all link back to a trunker-dunker control point if it isn't within line-of-sight?
Time for consideration of something simple and reserved solely for interoperability (not 5 VHF channels used routinely by licensees and coined emergency interoperability channels, Jonathan). #Time to put those (export-only, non-type-accepted) GP-68s and JT-1000s on a few new frequencies between 148 and 150.
And, without digital mumbo-jumbo of whatever type, so that agencies, the military, Coast Guard and hams can interoperate.
This is going to be entertaining.
I'll be keeping count of how many people in this thread lived and/or worked in NYC. #So far, it's just me. #
But keep it up guys, you are if anything entertaining.
I will offer this though - NYC provides some unique challenges - it is heavily overpopulated, and relies on old (ancient) infrastructure, as well as a civil service that is a complete mess (ask my xyl, she works in the NYC civil service.)
All of these help make any disaster a huge mess.
I thought that this section of the 9/11 Commission report which covers what happened with radio communication at the WTC complex was interesting.
The overall trend I see is that communications systems didn't fail so much as they were overloaded or used incorrectly. In my opinion NYC needs to focus on training on how to work around emergency communications problems, not on purchasing new communications hardware. It's a people problem, not a technology problem.
Regarding interoperability between different cities, Motorola and M/A-COM seem to be more part of the problem, not part of the solution. Both manufacturers prefer to lock cities into their type of proprietary equipment, making interoperability more difficult.
You have half of it right. NYC needs to get rid of the extreme bureaucracy in the NYC civil service first - all sorts of arcane rules that prevent people from doing their jobs.
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They could buy all of the equipment they want, it will solve nothing.
"As to Jonathan's claims about agility, that's true only for personalities and groups among a given set of frequencies assigned to a given trunked system. #Oh, but maybe mobiles have room for a hundred pre-programmed frequencies and zillions of personalities"
NOW THERE YOU GO AGAIN, LEE.
I THOUGHT YOU SAID YOU LEARNED YOUR LESSON ABOUT ASSUMING FACTS!
FIRST: An XTS5000 portable can have 850 seperate "personalities". EACH personality can be a different frequerncy, or the same frequency in a different pl/dpl/mode/mdc/id. etc and/or ANY COMBINATION. That's 850 different CHANNELS! Even in NYC, 850 is MORE then enough.
SECOND: In an emergency, police/fire/ems are authorized to use any frequency assigned to the public service range. So they can programm in advance, then use when needed.
Pushing back the frontiers of ignorance.
Again, whether its 150 channels on 1500 channels, Jonathan, YOU continue to push clandestine, esoteric, self-defeating trunked gear for crises. #Simplicity is the key, along with training, as another poster notes. #Besides, if the controller channel can't be heard by the XTS5000, its a nice doorstop.
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Trunked gear is infrastructure dependent, Jonathan. #Infrastructure should not be relied upon in a true crisis. #Two or three levels of redundancy, Jonathan, including emergency power redundancy. #WTC 7 had some pretty firm gear and the building went down in flames because the in-ground tanks full of thousands of gallons of Diesel were pumped way up and out into the structure, thanks to no override for generator daytank failure or fuel stand pipe breakage or damage. #As long as one of the generators operated, the basement fuel pumps operated. feeding the inferno.
Carpetbagger radio gear just won't do it for the trunker crowd. #They could shout about as far as something like that would provide coverage.
Even satellite trucks would have a hard time in a good part of NYC due to the tall structures.
Get yourself a good keyboard-frequency-entry conventional VHF Batwing radio and get ready, Jonathan. #Of course, with 850 channels, you might be able to program sufficient 12.5kHz splits to cover quite a lot of spectrum. #Simplex, of course.
If you could only tune in to listen to the ARES/RACES nets of NYC/LI area. It's a joke. 2 watt ham shack on a belt guys.
Better to relay anything that passes traffic .
Enjoy the Hobby ! After all it is yours to enjoy #!