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I have to admit, tuning the bands, I frequently come across individuals that have terrible audio (they think it is great) in that it is extremely WIDDDDDDDDE. I measured one guys signal the other day and it was around 7-8 kHz wide. Could copy him way down the band as well as above the side band (on 20 meters).
Then there are the kinds that add all sorts of nonsense to their audio. Example I heard was W4ASX running some reverberator effect on his audio. Talk about oppressive! Sounds like he was in a cave and I am certain the DX stations loved it. He was another guy extremely wide.
Don't know about you, but stock microphones with radios seems to still work for me. Have to wonder why the feds don't crack down on these excessively wide signals??
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Quote[/b] ]I have to admit, tuning the bands, I frequently come across individuals that have terrible audio (they think it is great) in that it is extremely WIDDDDDDDDE. I measured one guys signal the other day and it was around 7-8 kHz wide. Could copy him way down the band as well as above the side band (on 20 meters).
But...but...they'll argue that since an AM DSB signal is 6 KHz wide, they're well within their 'rights' to run an SSB transmitter that's ALSO 6 KHz wide...
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Quote[/b] ]I heard was W4ASX running some reverberator effect on his audio.
I don't answer calls from stations that are excessively wide, whose operators employ 'noise toys' and so forth...too much like CB radio for my tastes.
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Quote[/b] ]Don't know about you, but stock microphones with radios seems to still work for me.
Nothing wrong with a high-end mic/EQ combination feeding an SSB rig but deliberately opening up the TX IF chain to allow 6-8KHz wide SSB signals out of the exciter is BAD amateur practice.
If you want to be a broadcaster...go apply for a broadcast license.
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Quote[/b] ]Have to wonder why the feds don't crack down on these excessively wide signals??
They have. Unfortunately, those wrists which were slapped at the time apparently weren't slapped hard enough.
All this discussion is a moot point, however, if one favors the bottom 100KHz of of the bands...
The AR15/M16 - Irritating practically everyone since 1960...
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Pactor and digital voice are to be thrown off the bands, but ESSB and AM are to be accomodated to the fullest.
What a waste.
What I also don't get is the extremely bassy audio from some hams, particularly Spanish speaking ones. Some of these guys also run echo chambers. Their audio sounds more like something you'd hear on 11 meters.
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Quote[/b] (W0BKR @ Aug. 20 2007,08:21)]I have to admit, tuning the bands, I frequently come across individuals that have terrible audio (they think it is great) in that it is extremely WIDDDDDDDDE. #I measured one guys signal the other day and it was around 7-8 kHz wide. #Could copy him way down the band as well as above the side band (on 20 meters).
Then there are the kinds that add all sorts of nonsense to their audio. #Example I heard was W4ASX running some reverberator effect on his audio. #Talk about oppressive! #Sounds like he was in a cave and I am certain the DX stations loved it. #He was another guy extremely wide.
Don't know about you, but stock microphones with radios seems to still work for me. #Have to wonder why the feds don't crack down on these excessively wide signals??
The sad part is people tell asx he has great audio. He once answered my cq, after telling him he was 10 over he said wait a minute while I turn on the amp.
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There will always be LIDS on the bands, and the best thing to do is turn the dial. #Unfortunately, when the lids outnumber the good operators, I am planning to pursue other ways to spend my time.
" So much to do, and so little time ! ! ! "
Records to CD project; web site for my local church; I haven't flown a model airplane since my accident, #it would be a kick to see if I could still do it! ;#and the list goes on and on and on ! # #I don't NEED ham radio, especially if it keeps heading the way I think it is going !
73, Jim
Ham Radio, Amateur Astronomy, and Model Airplanes - what better way to spend some time!
No time is ever wasted that is spent LEARNING something ! 
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Quote[/b] ]Have to wonder why the feds don't crack down on these excessively wide signals??
At Dayton, Riley said something to the effect of "If you want high fidelity audio, get a broadcast license!"
Ya think there is a hidden message in there somewhere??
"Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to receive."
-Otto Watt Sept. 5 1925
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Hollingsworth said that if you want to sound like a broadcast station get a broadcast license.
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Quote[/b] (k7mh @ Aug. 20 2007,09:14)]
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Quote[/b] ]Have to wonder why the feds don't crack down on these excessively wide signals??
At Dayton, Riley said something to the effect of "If you want high fidelity audio, get a broadcast license!"
Ya think there is a hidden message in there somewhere?? 
"Faith without works is meaningless"
Until some big fines get levied upon the 'offenders', all of the posturing is merely that - posturing...
The AR15/M16 - Irritating practically everyone since 1960...
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That's what happens when you give away ham licenses. Sure glad I have other hobbies cause this one seems to be going down hill pretty fast.
i'm sorry you don't have the experience or understanding to realize that others possess a skill set that you seem to dismiss as fantastical.
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Quote[/b] (k7mh @ Aug. 20 2007,09:14)]
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Quote[/b] ]Have to wonder why the feds don't crack down on these excessively wide signals??
At Dayton, Riley said something to the effect of "If you want high fidelity audio, get a broadcast license!"
Ya think there is a hidden message in there somewhere?? 
I respect Riley et al, but honestly, I doubt the Fed care much about the goings on, on the HF bands. Else, they would be cleaning the clocks of a few lids out there that just seem to go on and on.
Heard K1MAN this weekend broadcasting again and the usualy tripe on 14.275. Gotta wonder when anything will be cleaned up on the bands....
Probably will, but not in my life time...
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