Wireless Network Operator suggests to revoke Amateur Radio 9cm and 13cm bands in Brazil.

Discussion in 'Amateur Radio News' started by PY2RN, Nov 15, 2018.

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  1. G4PWO

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    personally, as someone who is (a) a cellphone user who is sometimes frustrated by slow download speeds due to overcrowding and (b) a radio ham who is aware of how underused some of the higher frequency ham allocations are, i have sympathy for a shift in utilisation emphasis.
     
  2. KD8WAM

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    I never hear about the higher bands. Is there ever any events or awards on those bands to draw activity? Like foxhunt events perhaps. Maybe we could structure a club award for most counties with a successful fox hunt, to encourage clubs or communities to get together and innovate and use these higher bands. Requiring the fox to be independant, such as from a separate county/city/club from the club gaining the reward would make it competitive.
     
  3. K7LTF

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    Sure - i'll just place an order with Down East Microwave - and start listening for the tune of a grand or so. I think that one must remember that those bands are niche bands - and are pricey in general for most hams to use. Still worth trying to save what we have, even if most of us can't afford the gear to operate there, none the less.
     
  4. K6CLS

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    ARRL VHF Contest. ARRL UHF Contest. ARRL EME Contest. DUBUS VHF Contest. ARI EME Contest.
     
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  5. KX4BW

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    I don't really understand why a ham would even think about moving into a place that they are told upfront NO ANTENNAS ..
     
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  6. W1YW

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    ...and this is the data base by which it becomes clear we are not using this band. It's a simple pie chart, expressed either as # hams using the band vs the total population in a given country, or total number of contacts on the band vs total number of (projected) contacts on VHF/UHF.

    The fact that we have these activities only highlights that no one, save for a very few, wants to use this band, and in the US, those users have not met other criteria for the Part 97 mission statement in a convincing way.

    MORE THAN A DECADE ago, I actually proposed a band plan whereby hams gave up all but 20 MHz of the 3300 band. I was treated like some sort of traitor.

    Now, its likely we will lose it all in the next 5 years, IMO.
     
  7. K6CLS

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    Why do you assume that this list of QSOs are the only users of the band?

    Plenty of point to point wifi stuff going on, too.

    I'm taking a hard line, never ever give up any spectrum. It's like negotiating with a psychopath, they won't reciprocate and are relentless... Infinite loss, no gain.

    Like the ex wife.
     
  8. W1YW

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    I am not a psychopath and have no experience with an ex-wife. So I am afraid I do not relate to the analogy.

    You have defined the very metric that will be cited to show an absence of activity.

    The spectrum is lost if you don't use it with non-trivial numbers, and give evidence for is use.

    Please tell us why that doesn't make sense.

    We should hold onto this spectrum because...? Please help us see compelling reasons that would make sense outside the subset of a very small number of hams.

    73
    Chip W1YW
     
  9. PQ2SI

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    In Brazil, who´s using these band? In mosto places, scanning 2m and UHF there are few people using. Do not use, it is free. Fortunately, the HF band is still OK, but we must work, it is ours. Only in contests I listen pile ups (propagation only works in that cases?). Everybody is quiet using only FT8. Let´s use HF, people, before they arrest from us.
    73! PQ2SI
     
  10. W5TXR

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    This is a dangerous statement!
    Incrementalism! A little here, a little there.....before you know it half of the band has been sold off.
    As an as an American ham, I’m protecting every Hz of the amateur band!
    Once it’s gone, it’s gone! Just like 220-222 MHz. Remember this?
     
    Last edited: Dec 24, 2018

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