WINLINK terrorist protection

Discussion in 'Ham Radio Discussions' started by KX4Z, Aug 2, 2019.

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  1. KX4Z

    KX4Z Ham Member QRZ Page

    We actually HAD a sinkhole in the backyard of a house I once owned. I think abou EIGHT full size concrete trucks were required to fill it. I can't remember any more, but I think iit was 35 cubic yards of concrete to repair the limestone layer.

    We noticed a hole in the back yard that would drain the entire back yard in a heavy rain. Camera in there.....10 foot sphere of nothingness.

    Gordon
     
  2. N0TZU

    N0TZU Platinum Subscriber Platinum Subscriber QRZ Page

    Except that Winlink is not a repeater. It’s a message forwarding system subject to a different section, part 97.219 which puts responsibility on the first forwarding control operator for any violation, even though the originating station operator is primarily responsible.
     
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  3. KX4Z

    KX4Z Ham Member QRZ Page

    Sigh. Of course. But you see the point, right?
    And besides; who is the first "forwarding" operator when you are talking about ORIGINATION?
     
  4. K7JEM

    K7JEM Ham Member QRZ Page

    (b) For stations participating in a
    message forwarding system, the control
    operator of the station originating
    a message is primarily accountable for
    any violation of the rules in this part
    contained in the message.
     
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  5. KX4Z

    KX4Z Ham Member QRZ Page

    yep....now do you see what the ARRL wrote???
    if you can think outside the box, you can see what might have motivated them.......
     
  6. K7JEM

    K7JEM Ham Member QRZ Page

    I don't know what the ARRL wrote. This is from part 97
     
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  7. N0TZU

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    As I interpret it in the Winlink context of transmitting an email from an unlicensed person, the originating station is the gateway station. It’s clearly not the unlicensed person who has no part 97 responsibilities, nor is it the amateur user who is the intended recipient and isn’t yet aware of the email or it’s contents.
     
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  8. K7JEM

    K7JEM Ham Member QRZ Page

    This makes little sense. The only possible person who could have examined the message for suitability is the control operator of the originating station. The control op of the accessing station has no clue what the message contains, until it is transmitted by another station, under that station's call sign.

    The FCC has stated on many occasions that YOU as control operator are the person responsible for transmissions, not some other party. The rules say the same thing.
     
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  9. ND6M

    ND6M Ham Member QRZ Page


    There is no"interpretation" required, You are 100% correct.

    The LICENSED operator that first sends the message over Amateur bands is responsible to Part 97.

    BTW, I have heard,(but don't know for a fact), that the originating Amateur station in the winlink system can not actually see the content of a message until after it is sent. It would be interesting if this is actually correct.
     
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  10. W6EM

    W6EM Ham Member QRZ Page

    Especially if the box you're in has vertical bars..........
     

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