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Why no love for 2M AM?

Discussion in 'Ham Radio Discussions' started by K1YYI, May 22, 2019.

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  1. K1YYI

    K1YYI Ham Member QRZ Page

    I have a old 2M VHF rig that only does AM simplex. I've been monitoring and calling "listening" on 144.200 for a few months now in the NYC / NJ area, but no joy.

    Now I get it, FM and digi are the new trends, but I know some of you out there are sitting on some vintage gear, does anyone have any luck doing AM on 2 Meters?
     
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  2. KA0HCP

    KA0HCP XML Subscriber QRZ Page

    AM loves company! Get your friends and acquaintances to join you. Start your own net or round table. Others will join in.
     
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  3. WB5WPA

    WB5WPA Ham Member QRZ Page

    You too, can come through on your neighbor's sound system and PC speakers ...
     
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  4. KA0HCP

    KA0HCP XML Subscriber QRZ Page

    p.s. Don't forget that 2m AM'ers would tend to be using horizontally polarized antennas!
     
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  5. W7UUU

    W7UUU QRZ Lifetime Member #133 Administrator Volunteer Moderator Platinum Subscriber Life Member QRZ Page

    I had a blast in summer of 2017 making 2m AM contacts on my venerable Heathkit Twoer!!

    I kinda wish I'd been a ham in the days when 2m and 6m AM were wall-to-wall (so I've heard).

    Dave
    W7UUU

     
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  6. WB2WIK

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    True, and also I would not recommend using 144.200, which is the SSB calling frequency.

    AM'ers operate up higher in the band. If you're in northern NJ, 144.28 would be good, or possibly 144.425.

    The "AM calling frequency" (gentleman's agreement, no law involved) varies around the country:

    AM frequencies.PNG

    I know around here in California, if someone used AM on 144.200 that would invite quite a bit of wrath from some very powerful 2m SSB operators.:p
     
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  7. ND6M

    ND6M Ham Member QRZ Page

    Not on 144.200, that's the National SSB calling freq,.

    2 Meters (144-148 MHz)
    144.00-144.05 EME (CW)
    144.05-144.10 General CW and weak signals
    144.10-144.20 EME and weak-signal SSB
    144.200 National calling frequency
    144.200-144.275 General SSB operation

    144.275-144.300 Propagation beacons
    144.30-144.50 New OSCAR subband
    144.50-144.60 Linear translator inputs
    144.60-144.90 FM repeater inputs
    144.90-145.10 Weak signal and FM simplex (145.01,03,05,07,09 are widely used for packet)
    145.10-145.20 Linear translator outputs
    145.20-145.50 FM repeater outputs
    145.50-145.80 Miscellaneous and experimental modes
    145.80-146.00 OSCAR subband
    146.01-146.37 Repeater inputs
    146.40-146.58 Simplex
    146.52 National Simplex Calling Frequency
    146.61-146.97 Repeater outputs
    147.00-147.39 Repeater outputs
    147.42-147.57 Simplex
    147.60-147.99 Repeater inputs


    Bearing that in mind, I personally think 2m AM should still be on 145.8.......... YMMV

    there really isn't a "designated" AM freq anymore that I know of.

    the best shot to have a contact might be on one of these freqs if they are not in actual use..

    144.4 (Northwest)
    144.425 (Massachusetts)
    144.28 (NYC-Long Island)
    144.45 (California)

    Good Luck
     
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  8. N1BCG

    N1BCG Ham Member QRZ Page

    There have been occasions where I've been at +5000' in the same area and threw out a call on 146.52FM with no joy. Appending "aeronautical mobile" sometimes helps, but it seems to indicate a trend away from 2M analog in general. My KDK-2030 has two scan functions 1) locate an occupied frequency and 2) locate a unoccupied frequency. The latter function is quite a throwback from the roaring 80s!

    I agree with 'HCP in that you may need to generate interest, perhaps by starting on a repeater and pitching the idea to the curious.
     
  9. W7UUU

    W7UUU QRZ Lifetime Member #133 Administrator Volunteer Moderator Platinum Subscriber Life Member QRZ Page

    For my K1T project I picked 144.280and had a lot of success in the greater Seattle area. And same here - you get on 144.200 on AM and you're going to piss off all the folks who monitor that frequency practically 24/7 waiting for any (very rare) openings.

    Dave
    W7UUU
     
  10. N3HGB

    N3HGB Ham Member QRZ Page

    Is has been a very long time since FM was a "new" mode. If it is any consolation, FM simplex isn't exactly hopping very often either. I actually had no idea that anyone had operated AM on 2 meters since maybe the 1960s.
     

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