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Toll roads for tax paying citizens

Discussion in 'Survey Center' started by KA9JLM, Apr 10, 2012.

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  1. KA9JLM

    KA9JLM Ham Member QRZ Page

    Do you think that you should have to pay another road toll to drive to work ?

    We have Gas Tax for roads and bridges in Texas.

    The lottery was supposed to help roads and schools.

    Where do they get off wanting to make a Toll road out of a road that was already paid for with tax payers dollars.

    Where is all the money going ?

    Is it just me or are we getting a Triple screwing ?
  2. K8ERV

    K8ERV Ham Member QRZ Page

    A lot of that going around.

    Like paying a parking meter for use of a paid street.

    TOM K8ERV Montrose Colo
  3. KG4NEL

    KG4NEL Ham Member QRZ Page

    There are absolutely no other alternatives to the toll road?

    I'd rather have that for turnover if nothing else. If people are paying for their time, they're a lot less likely to sit there and squat the spot while others could make use of it in that time.
  4. WA6TKD

    WA6TKD Ham Member QRZ Page

    Here is the deal. There are only two true end sources of money, the taxpayer and the consumer. So while the consumer has some choice in the matter a taxpayer can only effect change with his/her vote. So it's your money, don't expect others to look after your best interests, buy smart when consuming, vote smart when trying to effect public policy.
  5. KA9JLM

    KA9JLM Ham Member QRZ Page

    The vote seems to do no good.

    We voted for a Lotto with the understanding that the money would help our schools and kids.
    They are laying off teachers. That money is on top of the Property tax that we pay.

    You pay at the pump for road taxes.

    Now you can pay to use the road, That your tax dollar paid for.

    Watts up ?

    It will be cheaper to fly soon.
    Last edited: Apr 11, 2012
  6. K8MHZ

    K8MHZ Ham Member QRZ Page

    The last time I used toll roads was when I was working in Gary, Indiana.

    It cost 15 cents to get on and a quarter to get off, but saved me twenty minutes of travel time.

    If I felt ripped by the 40 cents I spent, I would have just took the other (badly maintained) expressway.
  7. WA6TKD

    WA6TKD Ham Member QRZ Page

    When I added all my taxes one year including fed income and payroll taxes, states income and sales tax, property tax, taxes/fees on utilities, telephone, water/sewer/garbage, I estimated that almost 50% of my gross was going back to various governments. Made me a little sick, but I sucked it up and kept on plugging away until my retirement five years ago. However I rarely voted for any tax increases, except for a Cal Veterans home loan bond proposal, which as designed didn't have a net cost to taxpayers in the long run.
  8. N2EY

    N2EY Ham Member QRZ Page

    But what about the services you get for the money paid?

    - Military, police and fire protection. Courts and prisons.
    - Roads, highways, bridges, tunnels, streets, etc.
    - Trash collection, sewers, water and other utilities.
    - Public schools and universities.
    - Research and development, the space program, weather service, GPS, and much more.
    - Social Security, Medicare, and similar programs. (Could you retire without them?)

    It's easy to complain about taxes; everybody does it. But what about the benefits?

    I think the problem is that the costs and benefits are often disconnected. Consider GPS: There are no user fees; anyone can use GPS for free; all it takes is a suitable receiver for you to get incredibly precise position, time, velocity, etc. - anywhere that you can see the sky.

    GPS was developed with tax dollars, implemented with tax dollars, and is maintained with tax dollars. I don't know how many dollars, but I'd guess billions so far. And it doesn't run itself; there are ground stations to be operated, and the satellites do not last forever.

    Would private enterprise ever have developed and implemented GPS?

    73 de Jim, N2EY
  9. AG6JU

    AG6JU Ham Member QRZ Page

    Southern California, to use Toll Road , person need to have RFID TAG on their car. I know many people use them, they says it save a lot of time. the cost of using toll road changes depend on time of day and direction.
  10. KC9UDX

    KC9UDX Platinum Subscriber Life Member Platinum Subscriber QRZ Page

    It's not Triple. It's Quadruple. You already paid income tax on that same money. In fact, it's Quintuple, your employer paid business tax on that same money. Oh, wait.. It's not even that simple..

    There's an interesting conspiracy theory!
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