Discussion in 'Ham Radio Discussions' started by G0VQY, Dec 3, 2010.

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  1. G0VQY

    G0VQY Ham Member QRZ Page

    It still amazes me that every day you hear people calling CQ using the "Q" code incorrectly. I have just been listening to the ZL8 expedition and one of the guys is calling "QRZ Europe". If you follow the "Q" code correctly, that actually translates into "who is calling Europe?" Which actually doesn't mean anything. You would have thought that guys that have been selected for these expeditions would know how to operate properly?
  2. AD7N

    AD7N Ham Member QRZ Page

    is it "QRZ Europe" or "QRZ Europe?"?
    If he's getting a pileup and and is decoding a partial European call in a mass of US hams, calling "QRZ Europe?" could be meant as a filter for that particular pileup.

    However, semantically "CQ Europe CQ Europe" would be more appropriate if he's asking explicitly for European hams when initiating the call.

    semantically, of course :D
  3. DJ1YFK

    DJ1YFK Guest

    Asking "QRZ Europe?" is absolutely correct in this context. No need to call CQ if people are calling already. The ZL8X guys know what they're doing, and they are doing a fabulous job.
  4. K9STH

    K9STH Ham Member QRZ Page

    Unfortunately, when spoken, the question mark is not visible and therefore a few operators may not "catch" the inflection in the voice which indicates the presence of the question mark! :rolleyes:

    Glen, K9STH
  5. WB2WIK

    WB2WIK Premium Subscriber QRZ Page

    QRZ's used a lot on phone. I just about never use any Q signals on phone, it just seems silly.

    Instead of "QRZ Europe?" saying, "Europe only please" and standing by provides a stronger message with the same five syllables.
  6. WM3O

    WM3O Ham Member QRZ Page

    i'm sure "Europe only please" works great if English is your first language.
  7. W2ZB

    W2ZB Guest

    QLF & ZZZ

    I know some of you ot's will remember using QLF.

    And you old military types will remember using ZZZ.
  8. K3XR

    K3XR Ham Member QRZ Page

    Some might argue that the Q code was never intended for phone work, that may be so, however, long tradition would dictate otherwise, and there's no harm done. What is more difficult to explain is QRZ being used when CQ would be more appropriate.
  9. WB2WIK

    WB2WIK Premium Subscriber QRZ Page

    Q codes are definitely used on phone, and have been for the 45 years I've been a ham.

    What I don't understand is why anyone uses them when plain language will work fine and would actually be faster. I like "brevity" when it can be used.:)

    I was so glad to see the majority of CW operators switch from "name hr is" or even "name hr" or even "name" to simply "op." "Ur 599 hr QTH Los Angeles op Steve." It's faster and gets the message across just perfectly.

    Of course, I never understood why anyone would send "QTH HR IS," when "QTH" already means "my location is..."

    People waste a lot of words. In a rag chew when condx are good, I guess it really doesn't matter. But when condx are fading fast and signals are weak, brevity works better.

    On phone, too.
  10. G0GQK

    G0GQK Ham Member QRZ Page

    Maybe none of you have heard the plaintif cry "QRZ the frequency, QRZ the frequency, UA*****. There used to be a Russian character on 20 metres with a voice like gravel who did this, I can hear him now ! But its used often by those who speak not the language of those who created an empire where the sun never set ! Perhaps they believe that QRZ is a substitute for CQ. Dunno.

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