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QRZ Criticized Over Refusal to List K1MAN

Discussion in 'Amateur Radio News' started by AA7BQ, Nov 3, 2004.

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QRZ Criticized Over Refusal to List K1MAN - Give us your opinion

  1. Yes, I support QRZ's decision to de-list K1MAN

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  2. No, QRZ should list K1MAN and his viewpoints

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  1. AA7BQ

    AA7BQ QRZ Founder QRZ HQ Staff QRZ Page

    In a recent editorial (11/2/04) by K1MAN on his website,
    Glen Baxter has accused QRZ.COM of abridging the right of
    free speech by refusing to allow him access to our website
    and for not listing his callsign, photo, or bio information.

    Some time ago, the staff at QRZ some decided to de-list the
    K1MAN callsign based on our collective opinion that he does
    not represent a view of amateur radio activities that is
    condusive to the furtherance of the hobby. In other words,
    we don't think that he represents the true nature of the
    hobby and in many ways may be detrimental to it. Apparently,
    the FCC agrees on this point.

    Based on this opinion, QRZ exercised its sole prerogative
    to deny website access to K1MAN. We are exercising our right
    to free speech in making this choice.

    QRZ strongly believes that the majority its users, who
    themselves represent a broad spectrum of the amateur radio
    public, agree with our actions. Rather than assert this
    point speculatively however, We have decided to conduct
    informal poll to ask the simple question, "Do you agree
    with QRZ's decision to deny access to K1MAN?".

    Below is an excerpt of the K1MAN article that critizes QRZ
    on this topic.

    K1MAN writes:
    "Screw them, this is America, read my lips: "RILEY
    HOLLINGSWORTH IS A CHEAP AND CORRUPT POLITICAL WHO WAS SICK
    ON THE DAY THEY TAUGHT LAW AT LAW SCHOOL, THIS IS K1MAN."
    We can't wait to see "Riley the Whimp"....."Rot Riley,"
    himself, in court. Boy, it feels great to be an American,
    doesn't it? Eat your hearts out my fellow citizens of the
    world, WE, in the great United States of America, ARE
    free! QRZ.com is free to drop anyone he wants, a little
    corrupt, perhaps, but free never the less. He has simply
    made a bad choice and has totally host his credibility,
    bit, bu God, he is free."

    For the full text of his article, please see:
    http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/K1MAN14275/myhomepage/business.html
     
  2. KA4P

    KA4P Ham Member QRZ Page

    Although we all have a right to free speech, we do not have a right to be heard. Many people confuse the two issues. QRZ has no obligation to provide a platform for K1MAN or anyone else from which they can spew bilgewater.
     
  3. K1XS

    K1XS Premium Subscriber QRZ Page

    Fred:

    I always get a laugh out of claims of someone violating free speech or censorship on a PRIVATELY owned forum.

    QRZ is yours and you allow others to access it based on the rules you set. If someone does not like it, they can leave or start their own web site. I agree with your decision to de-list anyone you do not want on QRZ.com for violating your rules.

    QRZ is not a town park.

    73,

    Ken K1XS
     
  4. N4VNV

    N4VNV Ham Member QRZ Page

    I should live so long, for the FCC to get this guy off the air. And to think I worry about running too much power on 60M. Look what he gets away with!
     
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  5. K7JBQ

    K7JBQ Ham Member Volunteer Moderator QRZ Page

    The right to free speech does not include the right to be published anywhere one chooses.

    Who else will demand access? ex-KG6IRO?

    73,
    Bill
     
  6. K8SOR

    K8SOR Ham Member QRZ Page

    Fred,
    Keep up the good work. The less we hear of k1man the better.
    K8SOR Skip
     
  7. WB2WIK

    WB2WIK Platinum Subscriber Platinum Subscriber QRZ Page

    Baxter's a lunatic.

    And it's a shame, because he was once a highly respected expert on maintenance, repair and upgrade of Collins equipment. No longer. Wonder what happened over the last 25 or 30 years...?

    WB2WIK/6
     
  8. K9RIF

    K9RIF Ham Member QRZ Page

    I have to agree with KA4P As we all have the right to free speech we don't all have the right to be heard. My experience with law and law enforcement the people who complain the most about their civil rights being violated are the ones who are breaking the laws and have no real concept of what is right or wrong!!! Way to go QRZ I Back you 100%[​IMG]
     
  9. W5DHM

    W5DHM Ham Member QRZ Page

    This guy seems to have a lot of energy. Too bad he couldn't use it for something useful. We don't need him here. Somebody must need him.
     
  10. K7JAZ

    K7JAZ Guest

    I agree with what's been said here so far...nice to see that many people actually DO understand the free speech law, too bad so many including K1MANiac don't. QRZ is a private enterprise and they have the RIGHT to deny access to anyone they wish. Looks to me like they've made a sensible decision.
     
  11. K3UD

    K3UD Guest

    The garbage from his website tells me all I need to know about him.

    QRZ does not need to put up with it.

    Is there any way we can delist him from 20 meters?

    73
    George
    K3UD
     
  12. KG4RUL

    KG4RUL Ham Member QRZ Page

    QRZ is a Privately owned Amateur Radio bulletin board. K1MAN HAS NO RIGHTS WHATSOEVER to have his views posted on it. If QRZ judged my remarks to not be suitable, they have the same right to remove me. That is the real world folks. GET USED TO IT!

    Dennis [​IMG]
     
  13. K8YS

    K8YS Guest

    Fred, it is YOUR HOUSE, you can invite or kick out whom ever you want and for whatever reason.
     
  14. W6EM

    W6EM Ham Member QRZ Page

    It is your site, and you are in part responsible for what is posted and viewable. Especially things that might be defaming or obscene. And, since it is yours, you have a right to edit, delete, clip or do whatever you want as far as users postings are concerned.

    It isn't a subscription service, so we have no contract or right, beyond what you allow us to have, in your desire to share it with the amateur radio community for the benefit of amateur radio. Thanks for allowing me the privelege of posting.

    I support your decision, as it is based upon what you have observed posted elsewhere as an example of what would likely be posted here.


    73,

    Lee
    W6EM
     
  15. KG6JEV

    KG6JEV Ham Member QRZ Page

    Congratulations for having the nerve to ban this guy. I see eHam has done the same thing and someone submitted "updated" information on his profile on buck.com. I can't wait until the FCC pulls the plug on his broadcast operation - mr. baxter has a warped view of the rules and is clearly abusing his license. Furthermore, he is an embarrassment to amateur radio.

    73,

    Steven
     
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