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pressure relief for paint can load?

Discussion in 'Amateur Radio Amplifiers' started by W1BR, Feb 2, 2018.

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  1. W1BR

    W1BR Ham Member QRZ Page

    What does MFJ, and what did the Heath Cantenna, use to provide for expansion relief in the oil filled loads?

    I have a load resistor and tapered line back dating back when Waters replaced load assembly in my 334 DL--they returned the old parts which was the entire load including the SO239. I picked up a shiny new gallon paint can figuring having an extra kW load around wouldn't hurt... but I am a bit stymied on a relief system that would not allow oil or vapor to escape. I like the Bird bellows system, but hard to adapt.
     
  2. K7TRF

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    Here's what the pressure relief looks like on my Ameritron dummy load. It's just a bit of brass tubing, just don't tip over the paint can ;)
    dummy load pressure relief.jpg
     
  3. W1BR

    W1BR Ham Member QRZ Page

    Thanks, I guess I will scratch the MFJ approach... I expected too much :)
     
  4. KL7AJ

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    You will find that the ceilings of most hams of the era were dripping with transformer oil. :)
    Kitchens of the same era had ceilings dripping with the results of pressure cooked chicken cacciatore.
     
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  5. W7UUU

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    Always a very good idea to keep a plastic tub lid or similar underneath the paint can - no matter what pressure system is used, there will always be "ooze" and if you value your floor, you'll appreciate the protection.

    Dave
    W7UUU
     
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  6. W1BR

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    Bird oil loads do not leak. Waters loads didn't leak as a rule. I could always run it remotely outside... but if it blows up I'd miss the fun.
     
  7. KL7AJ

    KL7AJ Ham Member QRZ Page

    By the way....on a more serious note....when PCBs were used as transformer oil, there was never a worry about them catching on fire. On the other hand, "safe" mineral is highly flammable....almost explosive...at higher temperatures. So much for progress.
     
  8. AD0AC

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    But, you know, cancer sucks even more.
     
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  9. K1TGX

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    (4.2/10,000)*delta t (F) is the amount of expansion you get with mineral oil. So if you start at 60 deg F and go to 300 deg F you would get an expansion of (240*4.2)/10,000
    or approx 10% vol increase. A gallon is approx 231 cubic inches in volume so you would get ~ 23 cu in of expansion. If you filled the 'bucket' to 80% capacity the pressure would more than double under these conditions. OR you could silver solder a piece of 3/8 od soft copper tube to the lid and connect it to an 'expansion tube'. The expansion tube could be a sealed 12" piece of 3" copper tubing or steel nipple capped on both ends with provision to attach the 3/8 od tubing. Little chance any real pressure will build up before the lid just pops.
     
  10. W1BR

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    Well, I happen to have 3" cu tubing and some heating oil cu tubing, so I could do so, but doubt I'd want to let it get that hot. Too close to its flash point. Good suggestion.
     

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