Petiton started to void HOA Antenna Restrictions.

Discussion in 'Amateur Radio News' started by KZ5R, Apr 12, 2012.

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  1. KZ5R

    KZ5R Subscriber QRZ Page

    For 100 years amateur radio has played a vital role in the technological development of the United States and continues to do so today. Thousands of scientists and engineers got started in electronics and communications careers as a result of an early interest in amateur radio. Many of today’s scientists and engineers, as well as others in less technical fields, continue to enjoy amateur radio. Amateur radio is an activity that has a demonstrated history of “paying off” for society.

    Radio amateurs have a proud tradition of making their skills and equipment available for backup and auxiliary emergency communications in times of disaster - at no cost to taxpayers. The Amateur Radio Service provides a layer of redundancy - a most desirable feature of any communications system.

    Unreasonable and unnecessary land use restrictions are now near universal in prohibiting the erection of antennas essential for amateur radio communications in most residential developments constructed in recent decades. Homeowner’s and property owner’s associations have usurped the legitimate authority of the Federal Communications Commission in this area of telecommunications. This has had a detrimental effect upon the development of the Amateur Radio Service and, as a consequence, it has had a negative effect upon our ability to provide emergency communications during times of disaster.

    We request the Federal Communications Commission to take whatever steps are necessary to immediately void all existing private land use restrictions dealing with antennas used for the transmission or reception of radio signals and to disallow any future creation of such restrictions by private homeowner’s and property owner’s associations. We further request that the Federal Communications Commission consider the establishment of reasonable criteria for permitting the erection of antennas in private residential areas.

    To sign the petition, go to
  2. K1VSK

    K1VSK Ham Member QRZ Page

    I may be the only one who doesn't want the government telling me, my community, my town or my neighborhood how to manage our aesthetics. If I choose to live there, I also don't need the Federal government fixing my self-inflicted limitations. It has bigger problems than managing my neighborhood skyline.
  3. KD8KQH

    KD8KQH Ham Member QRZ Page

    Why, instead of a petition, which does not provide any concrete, specific information except the opinion of a minority group (yes, we are a minority), don't you answer the specific questions that FCC has asked in the Request for Comments issued some days ago?

    Frankly, this petition is of very little value. Everything that is said in the petition is a well-know information and FCC already knows it. That's why FCC is asking for specific examples and proposals on how to correct this situation. They need FACTS, not OPINIONS to act on the subject.

    Please read my post from few days ago on this specific subject. Moreover, if you don't have time to write specific answers to FCC, just copy one of the letters that other hams have submitted to the FCC answering the specific questions. If you support the specific examples and proposals that other hams sent, subscribe to there comments, instead of making a broad petition that is not adding anything new.

    If you want to change FCC position on CC&R's provide factual information. If you can show that a single life was lost because of HOA's CC&R's on amateur antennas, and that this life could have been saved if FCC changed current rules, there is no doubt FCC (and the public in general) will embrace the change. Otherwise, it's just another rant.
  4. KA9JLM

    KA9JLM Ham Member QRZ Page

    Again ?

    Moving is a great fix.

    Or use Echolink.
  5. WK5X

    WK5X Ham Member QRZ Page

    This is an easy one: If you want to put up an antenna, don't buy property in an area with a HOA.
  6. KA9JLM

    KA9JLM Ham Member QRZ Page

    That is so true.
  7. KC2VQZ

    KC2VQZ Ham Member QRZ Page

    no restrations dave
  8. WW7F

    WW7F Guest

    Just curious,any amateurs that are in real estate have an opinion on this subject? It coul be interesting to hear what some of them have to say. I have a hunch there are a number of realtors who are against it because of headaches this might create for them, I also have an idea some of them are maybe going with the flow in thier business.
    I'm for getting rid of the stupid HOA mutual admiration societies many of thier rules feel like the homeowner lives in some kind of serfdom and not thier own home.
    These stupid rules are getting to be more like condo life not a homeowner's piece of some American Dream with some small group of people imposing thier agenda on the many who live under the HOA's rules.
    I don't have an issue with the rules like no old cars to be rebuilt in the front yard or keeping trash picked up but the stuff like no different color if it clashes with thier grand little design.
    It is funny isn't it how many people got along just fine without some panel of dictatorial elitists with an agenda to have some grand little dream of a cut out neighborhood ala Norman Rockwell .
    I have no axe to grind just my opinion is all,73 to all, Michelle
  9. KA9JLM

    KA9JLM Ham Member QRZ Page

    I have heard of rules and HOA BS that says you can not put your trash out for pickup, before 1 hour before pickup time.

    If the trash man comes late then you are in the wrong.
    Or is a stray dog gets into your trash then it is your fault.

    Ham radio is the least of concern when it comes to the HOA and their DA rules.

    You can not even change the oil on your own automobile. That is why Jiffy Lubes are popping up everywhere.

    Someone is making a bunch of money to keep you brainwashed.

    The worst part is that you pay your HOA to screw you.
  10. KB0KYV

    KB0KYV Ham Member QRZ Page

    Yes, you're the only one! What do you think that says about your viewpoint?
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