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Now this guy is "king" LID

Discussion in 'Discussions, Opinions & Editorials' started by AE1P, Jul 29, 2010.

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  1. AE1P

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    While listening tonite to 14.290, K2BSA, the boy scout station in VA., this King LID decides to obliterate some
    poor kid trying to have a qso with the troop station....
    Give a listen...

    (This is where vigilante justice could be useful!:mad:)
  2. KI5F

    KI5F Ham Member QRZ Page

    What a winner!:eek:
  3. WB2WIK

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    It's really funny you should bring up that particular callsign/op.

    I'll tell you another time, why.

    He has a recorder calling CQ DX and runs it a lot; I'm not even sure he's listening.:p
  4. WW3QB

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    It's not clear that the stations in the recording can hear each other. The kid in his second transmission seems to be responding to the BSA station without a problem.
  5. AB8MA

    AB8MA Ham Member QRZ Page

    I removed the originators (international) from a dxscape search and ended up with this:

    KZ8O 10/07/25 0236Z 14270.0 total a$$
    KZ8O 10/07/25 0214Z 14270.0 NOT a proper operator, ignore
    KZ8O 10/07/25 0212Z 14270.0 qsl not answer
    KZ8O 10/07/24 0017Z 14270.0 causing QRM to DX as usual!!
    KZ8O 10/06/30 0249Z 14272.5 JAMMER
    KZ8O 10/06/30 0247Z 14272.5 super lid!!
    KZ8O 10/06/28 1821Z 14270.0 No send QSL
    KZ8O 10/06/28 1816Z 14270.0 rudely jumped in on top of boy
    KZ8O 10/06/27 1645Z 14271.0 jamming as always FCC
    KZ8O 10/06/27 1516Z 14270.0 44 DD his bra size
    KZ8O 10/06/27 1321Z 14268.5 keep ur junk sig off my
    KZ8O 10/06/27 0020Z 14270.0 & va2utc, Bozo's united!
    KZ8O 10/06/27 0007Z 14270.0 Not a liegitimate contes
    KZ8O 10/06/26 2354Z 14272.0 this guy a joke. real stupid
    KZ8O 10/06/26 2000Z 14270.0 cq FOOL'S day 44DD
    KZ8O 10/06/26 1807Z 14270.0 LID LID Do not work him.
    KZ8O 10/06/26 0019Z 14270.0 poor fat mikey talking to
    KZ8O 10/06/23 0102Z 14275.0 = NINO, IT9RYH - 14195 = same
    KZ8O 10/06/18 1319Z 14272.5 QRMing DX on 14271.00 as
    KZ8O 10/06/03 1830Z 14270.0 No send QSL
  6. WA4OTD

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    WOW, any one of these is bad, the collective really speaks about this guy.

    .....he is getting a lot of contacts and has large number of lookups. I don't know how phone works, looks like he has lot of people calling him?

  7. AE1P

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    You can defend this Joker all you want.....
    I've heard him on many times, and as others have noted, his "calling card" is to QRM for "Fun".
    BSA Jamboree station K2BSA has been spotted for 2 days now on 14.290, he knew what he was doing....:mad:

    Anyone who feels the need to Qrm has issues to begin with,
    to QRM boy scouts,
    that person needs to place his fingers in the shape of a big "L", and place on forehead...
    He has issues...
    Last edited: Jul 29, 2010
  8. KF5FEI

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    He sounds like the Bacon Lettuce Tomato guy who was on 20m one evening. CQ recording just kept playing over and over with only 5-10 seconds between.
  9. WW3QB

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    I don't mean to defend him. Often two stations simply don't hear each other while a third station hears both.

    But this ham's reputation (previously unknown to me) makes intentional QRM more likely. But LID is too kind. A LID is a poor operator, from lack of experience or just a thoughtless moment. What do we call a malicious operator?
  10. KE5FRF

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    Yep. That is really....sad. QRMing a Jamboree. Low.
  11. W7HTA

    W7HTA Ham Member QRZ Page

    I've heard that jerk on 20m several times myself. I also heard him jamming K2BSA. I also heard him calling himself a "special event" station a couple times over the last couple of days.:cool:
  12. AG3Y

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    "What do we call a malicious operator? "

    OHHHH, I don't know. . . . . how 'bout "a malicious operator" ? ? ?
  13. AE1P

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    Good question, Bob,
    He (KZ8O) definitely qualifies! :eek:
  14. WB2WIK

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    Malicious, or possibly another definition:

    One who has a transmitter, but no receiver.:p

    Maybe that's a broadcast station?;)

    Anyway, I know who this station is (not personally, just on the air) and have mixed feelings.

    He seems to be a "defender of the First Amendment" and also a discourteous operator. Unfortunately, there are quite a few of those.

    I happen to live near one, who has a better signal than I do on 20m because he has a 90' tower and a 6L monobander on a 54' boom, which is more than I have on that band. He'll jump on top of almost anything going on to work the Indian Ocean at Gray Line, even if the frequency was already occupied.

    I won't tell him he's being a lid, because he won't care and he has a big signal.

    So, I found the normal solution: The BIG KNOB, and keep turning it until the problem disappears.:p
  15. KB0YYO

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    I have heard this guy talk to his small circle of friends and he jokes about giving the 44DD confirmation to contesters and laughs about it to his cronies. He is a jerk and doesn't do the Ham community a bit of good.
    LID is too kind.
  16. W8ZNX

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    that does not enjoy life

    feels everybody else should also suffer
  17. NY7Q

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    bad ham

    that guy is all over the bands and have listened to him many times.
    he is a trouble maker, who, in most cases will dare you to do something about his operating practices.
    I have heard him say the fcc "can't" do a thing
    he continues on....:confused:
  18. AB2T

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    Poked around ARRL's webpage for Part 97.

    97.105(a) The control operator must ensure the immediate proper operation of the station, regardless of the type of control.

    This law is vague. What is "proper operation"? This example clearly seems to be a case of malicious interference. Still, what would happen if someone left their voice keyer on loop-play (is that possible? never had one) and left the shack for a day or two? He/she would probably violate the same rule of "proper operation".

    If this guy can't be penalized for jamming, he could be penalized for the neglect of his station equipment.
  19. K0MB

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    From the ARRL Letter, Dec 1, 2000:

    The FCC says Amateur Extra licensee Michael E. Guernsey, ND8V, of Kalamazoo,
    Michigan, has agreed to a nine-month suspension of his HF privileges,
    starting January 1. FCC Special Counsel for Amateur Radio Enforcement Riley
    Hollingsworth said that if Guernsey does not violate FCC rules or the
    license modification agreement, the FCC will clear his file of past
    complaints in any future enforcement action against his license.

    The action came in the wake of allegations that the licensee had caused
    deliberate interference on 20 meters "particularly communications of
    Hispanic operators and truckers when you perceived them to have an
    improperly 'wide' SSB signal or a signal which in your opinion exhibited
    excessive microphone gain," Hollingsworth said. The FCC also cited
    allegations that the licensee may have used profanity and obscenity on the
    air, that he may not have identified by call sign, and that he might have
    deliberately interfered with communications on the Maritime Mobile Service
  20. K0MB

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    From the ARRL Letter, April 25, 2003:


    The FCC alleges that a Michigan ham engaged in deliberate interference and
    broadcasting and threatened other amateurs, and it's sending Michael
    Guernsey Sr, ND8V, of Parchment a tape recording to back up those
    assertions. Since late 1998, Guernsey has been the recipient of seven
    letters from FCC Special Counsel Riley Hollingsworth, including two
    warning notices. In 2000, the FCC threatened to designate Guernsey's
    license for a revocation and suspension hearing. Guernsey subsequently
    agreed to a nine-month suspension of his HF privileges in 2001.

    "The operation of your station over the last several years raises
    questions about your qualifications to remain a Commission licensee,"
    Hollingsworth wrote Guernsey on April 7. The latest flap primarily
    involves complaints from other amateurs of deliberate interference on 20
    meters. The recorded transmissions were made on March 26, 2003.

    In his letter, Hollingsworth noted that some of the interference
    apparently sprang from on-the-air personal disputes or from what Guernsey
    perceived as deliberate interference to his transmissions. Even so,
    Hollingsworth said, Guernsey has apparently ignored the Commission's
    written and verbal warnings to not retaliate with similar behavior.
    Hollingsworth advised Guernsey that the alleged deliberate retaliatory
    threats and transmissions on top of other QSOs are contrary to FCC rules
    "and indicate that the numerous warnings to date have little, if any,
    effect in regarding to bringing your operation into compliance with
    Commission rules."

    Hollingsworth requested that Guernsey review the tape recording and
    respond in writing and in detail within 20 days. He said the FCC will use
    the information Guernsey submits to decide whether to designate Guernsey's
    license for a suspension and revocation proceeding or to lift voice
    privileges from Guernsey's license for the remainder of his license term,
    which ends in 2012.
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