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New FAA regulations require towers under 200′ to be marked

Discussion in 'Amateur Radio News' started by W0IW, Jul 13, 2019.

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  1. KA2K

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  2. WN1MB

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    ...like spraying poison near a residence?
     
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  3. KI7HSB

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    My association with EMT was in a community too small to have any airborne capacity, so I'm just making an educated guess, but...
    Seeing as the vast majority of first responders are local, I would think that they would already have a habit of familiarizing themselves with anything that could impede their operations...
     
  4. KI7HSB

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    Perfectly legal.
     
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  5. KI7HSB

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    I'm reminded of this classic gem....

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  6. KI6PMD

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    Yep I say Clem the crop duster fly under a barb wire fence ! Hi Hi they do fly very low so the product doe's not blow away. Those wind farm turbines don't look too well marked in the day ! If you want to see some real real low flying go down to Salton Sea in the California desert the FLY BOYS down there fly their F-18s below sea level ! Hi Hi Love to watch the ACM & Bomb runs in the Chocolate Mountains ! 73' Phil KI6PMD..
     
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  7. K0DD

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    When I was flying for a DOD Contractor in the 1980's.... As the NFP at the time, I took a photo flying past a Saguaro Cactus at 30'about 250 MPH... It waved at ME... I waved back.
     
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  8. K0DD

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    Oh I had a multiple mistype That was CRP LAND not FRP=Fiberglas reinforced Plywood. CRP=Conservation Reserve Program. Sri...
     
  9. K0UO

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    I would agree, before you guys go crazy read what the ARRL did a couple of years ago to exempt amateur radio towers.
    Now I live on an airport and have a 195 ft Tower but it was registered under the FCC antenna tower registration system a number of years ago.
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  10. K0UO

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    But you failed to note that aerial applications fly under Restricted category, check those regs out.
     
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  11. K0UO

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    I see that at every month in Trade a Plane!
     
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  12. KK5JY

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    Feel free to quote them. :)
     
  13. N0TZU

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    Nope:

    14 CFR 137 AGRICULTURAL AIRCRAFT OPERATIONS

    Subpart C. Operating Rules

    § 137.49 Operations over other than congested areas.
    Notwithstanding part 91 of this chapter, during the actual dispensing operation, including approaches, departures, and turnarounds reasonably necessary for the operation, an aircraft may be operated over other than congested areas below 500 feet above the surface and closer than 500 feet to persons, vessels, vehicles, and structures, if the operations are conducted without creating a hazard to persons or property on the surface.
     
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  14. K0UO

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    14 CFR 137.49, which states that an aircraft may be operated closer than 500 feet to persons, buildings and the ground. This is essential for effective ag application, and I can say that 50 foot clearances over buildings are quite common. 100 foot clearances over houses are as well. How low is too low? Where will you go when the fan quits, and if you can clear the structure or person and make a suitable off airport landing (or at least argue that you could) then you are fine. The rules are different for congested areas, and the FAA changes their interpretation of congested areas as they wish, but in all my years in aviation, I have never heard of a ag applicator being violated for unsafe altitude, when performing ag operations. So to summarize, over an uncongested area, there is no regulatory figure of X number of feet. It's not 500, it's not 200. Period. Screenshot_20190716-204652_Hancom Office Editor.jpg
     
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  15. KK5JY

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    ...which reads:

    § 137.49 Operations over other than congested areas.
    Notwithstanding part 91 of this chapter, during the actual dispensing operation, including approaches, departures, and turnarounds reasonably necessary for the operation, an aircraft may be operated over other than congested areas below 500 feet above the surface and closer than 500 feet to persons, vessels, vehicles, and structures, if the operations are conducted without creating a hazard to persons or property on the surface.

    Okay, there are some very specific exceptions to the 500' rule for very specific parts of aerial dispensing operations, under very specific conditions. :)
     

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