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NEW 2 Bands in USA: 630meters (472-479 kHz) and 2200 meters (135.7-137.8 kHz )

Discussion in 'Amateur Radio News' started by IW2BSF, Mar 31, 2017.

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  1. W7ASA

    W7ASA Ham Member QRZ Page

    I do notice that the ARRL put the happy face on this with '2 new bands' (uh, no , a few kilohertz do not a band make) . What should have been the top headline was

    'top half of top band once again subject to buoy interference - and ARRL helped. '
     
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  2. W1YW

    W1YW Ham Member QRZ Page

    Watch for the ....[​IMG][​IMG]BATS!
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    Watson...
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  3. AA5CT

    AA5CT Ham Member QRZ Page

    Just making reference a historical factoid and also do note the fact they they were referring perhaps more to the "frame" nature of the loop; one can consider a straight wire an "open frame" w/o reference to it being an antenna or the type of circuit in this sense.

    I WILL point out that the electric field is better contained in a "closed-frame antenna" than it is in an "open frame antenna", however.

    Note well that I have *no* RF effects in the PC speakers back only about 20 ft away in the house when a balanced feed network is used to feed the loop in the bottom center wire (details not shown in the previous diagram) - and this is at the kilowatt power level. Compare that to a dipole - EVERYTHING starts acting whacky when in the vicinity of the end of a dipole at the kilowatt power level.
     
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  4. W1YW

    W1YW Ham Member QRZ Page

    B-A-T-S-!
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    Finger...BATS!
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    Not only Uncle Hunter goze...BATS!
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  5. KM1H

    KM1H Ham Member QRZ Page

    Those WW2 FT-241 style rocks are still very available as long as they are not the popular 455 and 465 kHz used to make crystal filters.
    http://people.csail.mit.edu/sw/html/NS1W/ft-241.html

    OTOH I wouldnt want to use 70+ year old crystals for anything but straight CW; accuracy is needed for the various digital modes with an effective bandwidth of one Hertz or so. I used a HP 8640B into a 10W amp on 630M for CW and listened on a TS-950SD with cascaded 250 Hz filters.

    A transverter is the next project plus learning to use the software.

    Carl
     
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  6. K3UJ

    K3UJ Ham Member QRZ Page

    Well, you got my icon right, but the quote was from Kelly's Hero's. :)
     
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  7. W1YW

    W1YW Ham Member QRZ Page

    No Watson.... Our homeboy Sherlock (No sh&&!). Provenance under the magnifier...

    Derivative of derivative;-)

    Moriarty Origin AC--DC--Doyle.

    Wavy gravy.

    BATS![​IMG]
     
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  8. W5OXL

    W5OXL Ham Member QRZ Page

    W1YW,

    I believe that the one kilometer dead zone around power transmission lines is going to hobble a lot of people who want to transmit on these bands. I think the UTC will deny all applications that are within one kilometer of a transmission line no matter if they are using PLC or not and if they are even though it is not within the two bands. While I don't remember their name being specifically mentioned, there were industry groups that were opposed to even the possibility of the 630 meter and 2200 meter bands for amateurs; UTC is an industry group.
     
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  9. W1YW

    W1YW Ham Member QRZ Page

    They can't deny whats already approved. Get applied before they erect.

    73
    Chip W1YW
     
  10. WF9Q

    WF9Q Ham Member QRZ Page

    Never thought about that............bummer.
    I guess some one will have to use a DSP development board to generate the signal to drive a good old fashion vacuum tube.
     
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  11. WF9Q

    WF9Q Ham Member QRZ Page

    How are they defining power transmission lines, excuse my ignorance on this.
     
  12. W5OXL

    W5OXL Ham Member QRZ Page

    To update my previous comment, the Utilities Telecoms Council (UTC) was a primary objector to Amateur Radio access to the 630 meter and 2200 meter bands per the FCC Report & Order 17-33.

    Also WF9Q, from the same, it appears that UTC will define what a power transmission line is. It is wonderful when people who don't want us there get to define the rules. With their animosity towards Amateur Radio on these frequencies, even the local distribution lines may become power transmission lines. Despite my negative thoughts, I think these are the higher voltage lines that move electric power cross country.
     
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  13. WR2E

    WR2E XML Subscriber QRZ Page

    Conflict of interest? Impartial? Naaaahhhhh.
     
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  14. WA3ETD

    WA3ETD Ham Member QRZ Page

    WF9Q - I've used those cheap EB*y DDS boards that allow one to key in any frequency. Two issues:
    most use a undisciplined 10 MHz crystal - read drift. I modified mine and lock it to a GPSDO. Also,
    they can be dirty - a simple 3-pole LPF between the board and your driver tube will take care of that
    issue. That would get you on CW. CU down there! -WA3ETD / WG2XKA Part 5
     
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  15. WF9Q

    WF9Q Ham Member QRZ Page

    That is what my suspicion was........so if they declare 7 kV primary as "power transmission line" that means NO ONE in the USA that has electric service will be on the that band.
     

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