Mosley Mini-33-WARC vs. Cushcraft MA5B - Any opinions from the experienced?

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  1. KD2CJJ

    KD2CJJ Ham Member QRZ Page

    Mosley Mini-33-WARC vs. Cushcraft MA5B - Any opinions from the experienced? Its hard for me to determine which would be a better overall and would like some first hand opinions on either one. (The XYL will in no way condone a Hex Beam.. I have tried but she seems to be ok with the "TV Antenna").

  2. W7UUU

    W7UUU QRZ Lifetime Member #133 Life Member Platinum Subscriber QRZ Page

    I'm in the same boat and same position. I'm looking at the MINI-32 with the WARC dipole. The gain figures
    on the 2 element are essentially IDENTICAL to the 3 element. So the MINI32-AW is still only 3 elements but
    now 5 bands, and the gain on 10-15-20 is essentially the same as the MINI-33

    Tried the Hexbeam on the XYL and let's just say that went no where FAST LOL!!

  3. K7MH

    K7MH Ham Member QRZ Page

    You are supposed to tell them it is an outdoor umbrella style clothesline and you're going green!
    If you can raise and lower it it will have a dual purpose!!:p
  4. KD2CJJ

    KD2CJJ Ham Member QRZ Page

    Good point.. the Mini 32 looks like a good alternative with less metal in the air..... I guess Im questioning the efficiency between the Mosley Mini's and the Cushcraft. From what I can see the Cushcraft is using capacitance hats, Traps plus a matching box (2 baluns and some capacitors, etc) to get the antenna into resonance. I have some concerns whether or not this is adding any loss; it sure adds more components to fail. The Mosley is using simple Traps......

    The Mosely has a significant amount more bandwidth and from what I can see significantly more gain. The Cushcraft is measuring theirs in dbi and Mosley in dBd. I see that they are the same numbers but that starch difference pushes me towards the Mosley. (in reality Cushcraft has about 1/2 of the gain; I dont know why though).

    Any opinions out there?

  5. WB2WIK

    WB2WIK Premium Subscriber QRZ Page

    The Mosley is less complex and easier to assemble, although it's pretty light duty (I've had them "break" in Field Day operations), especially considering their full-sized beams are quite heavy-duty and seem to last forever. They pulled a lot of weight out of the "Mini" series by going to smaller, thinner materials.

    If your installation won't face ice loading and heavy winds, I'd probably pick the Mosley given the choice of only these two.

    Although "my" choice wouldn't be either one of them.:p For 5-band coverage, there are interlaced coupled element beams like F-12; interlaced trapped yagis like Hy-Gain, Mosley et al; LPDAs from Tennadyne and others; Hexbeams from a few sources; etc. I actually like all of those better than the Mini or the MA5B, having had "hands-on" with all of them. For me, when it comes to HF beams, "heavier duty" is better as I don't like picking up aluminum parts from the yard.:eek:
  6. KC4LNX

    KC4LNX Ham Member QRZ Page

    I used the MA5B and found it to be a very good ant. worked the world with it at 26 feet and 100 watts. goes together pretty well---just follow the instructions. i have a mosley cl-33m now--also good but longer boom.
  7. KA7NIQ

    KA7NIQ Ham Member QRZ Page

    Because they are small and short, they both suck, compared to a full size antenna. But IMHO, the Cush Craft sucks less.
    If you have the room, and can sell her on a TV Antenna, consider the excellent Tennadyne Log Periodics ?
  8. WB2WIK

    WB2WIK Premium Subscriber QRZ Page

    Good suggestion. The T6 Tennadyne surely outperforms either one and it really does look like a TV antenna, although quite a "big" one. The longest element is 39 feet. But if you get it up high enough above ground, it starts looking small. At 100 feet, it really does look like a TV antenna.
  9. KD2CJJ

    KD2CJJ Ham Member QRZ Page

    Come on guys... seriously... If I could I would, but I cant. Living in the suburbs of NYC it just isnt happening... Im happy that she is OK with the small "TV Antenna". Since we are talking which sucks less why would the Cushcraft suck less in your opinion? I have heard that from others but no one can give me a good reason...
  10. WB2WIK

    WB2WIK Premium Subscriber QRZ Page

    That is your own personal limitation. Dick K2RIW lives in Dix Hills and has (maybe still has, I don't know) 100' towers in his yard.

    I grew up in the suburbs of NYC and always had towers there...since I was 14 years old.

    Some restrictions are only self-imposed.:eek:

    I live in the largest and most populated county in the U.S. (Los Angeles) on a small city lot and have towers here. No restriction, and no ordinance says I can't.

    As far as the XYL is concerned, we have a deal: I do whatever I want with my half the house and property, and she does whatever she wants with her half. My half has the towers and antennas, her half has all the fruit trees and stuff she planted. Works out great.:eek:
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