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Icom IC-735 vs Icom IC-718

Discussion in 'Amateur Radio Equipment Reviews' started by WA3PAK, Nov 23, 2007.

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  1. WA3PAK

    WA3PAK Ham Member QRZ Page

    I am considering either purchasing a used Icom IC-735 or possibly going with a new IC-718. Has anyone used both rigs and could comment on their impression of both and which you would choose? I'm trying to save a few bucks, but am wondering if spending a bit more for the newer 718 would be the better way to go. Anyone with experience with both of these rigs?
  2. KD5TAT

    KD5TAT Ham Member QRZ Page

    I have not used the IC-735 but have used a IC-725 for years. It grew old an started to have problems with its freq stabilization circuits. I really enjoyed the older model Icom. It had a real clear recieve audio. They probally are easier to repair than the new ones if needed.
    I have since aquired a IC-718 back in March 2007. I myself am not looking back. The 718 is a better radio. 73's KD5TAT
  3. W6DRX

    W6DRX Ham Member QRZ Page

    I dont know the IC-735, but I do know the 718....It's quite a good value. It has worked better than I expected. They also can be found used to save you some money. I would suggest getting a filter for it, or find one used that has a filter with it. They (718) are a pretty good little rig, simple and work well for the price. I plan on upgrading, but will keep mine for portable and/or mobile operation.
  4. W4INF

    W4INF Ham Member QRZ Page

    I ran a Kenwood TS-120, the unit just befofe the TS-130- The TS-130 is similar in age and features the the IC-735 (If I recall correctly). The problem with these rigs is not performance, 100W is 100W, but rather the age of the unit. Its getting to be a senior piece of equipment.

    For not much more you can get a 718 new. I have one and am 110% please with it- Has plenty of features, performance is great and reliability is excellent! I have no plans on upgrading my 718 in the near or far future! I have a Donner Digital interface and run PSK with it if I wish, adjustable RF out so I can run QRP CW- The DSP is no biggie, but if you run CW get a filter soon or get an external filter.

    Bottom line, IMHO, if you get a 718 you will never regret it!

    The 735 would be a fine radio alibit it's reliability due to age but it will put out a signal. I would go this rout if there was a tight budget and no foreseeable change in that status.

    Lastly, is where I get my gear, outstanding customer service and fast shipping.

    Good luck,
  5. G0GQK

    G0GQK Ham Member QRZ Page

    Buy an IC 718, read all the reviews, its the best tranxeiver for the money.
    The 735 is an old rig now and parts may not be available if you need them.

    My six quids worth !

  6. WA3PAK

    WA3PAK Ham Member QRZ Page

    Thanks guys! I really appreciate the advice. I've been out of ham radio for a few years and now getting back into it, it's great to have a forum to ask questions of and get some feedback.

    I think I will try to convince the YL (she's licensed as well so I can't use the XYL label) that I really need this and that it would be a great investment. At least it will keep me off the streets and at home. She's got to agree to that, right?

    Again, thank you!

  7. WA3PAK

    WA3PAK Ham Member QRZ Page

    Oh, almost forgot a very important question since I am planning on some QRP operation.

    Will the IC-718 turn down to 5 watts output on it's lowest setting? Hopefully it will. Someone who has one could perhaps clue me in on this. Thanks again!

  8. W4INF

    W4INF Ham Member QRZ Page

    Brad, yes... I have the 718 (see above, wont part with it for the love of money) and it will tune from zero to 100 watts and all places between. It is a simple menu option and turn the dial to the desired output.

    However, a watt meter is necessary, you cant use the rig's meter for a definitive measure.

    The rig's built in SWR meter is however very good (as is the ALC).

    The rig's watt meter doesnt scale like you would expect- you would have to just see it to understand-

    Good luck,
  9. W4INF

    W4INF Ham Member QRZ Page

    If u want, I can shoot and post a video of this- No problem, just ask. Im pretty busy but if you want to see what Im talking about I dont mind taking the time for you.

  10. W4INF

    W4INF Ham Member QRZ Page

  11. KC4YLV

    KC4YLV Ham Member QRZ Page

    735's are pretty bulletproof, I have to recommend them unless you're a serious phone op - there's no selection for different ssb widths. PBT is good though and makes up for it.

    Good radio that unfortunately has a couple of dumb design decisions, that STUPID FLIMSY DOOR being #1.

    Still, I'll never sell mine.
    Pretty easy to fix, too, with the service manual.
  12. WA3PAK

    WA3PAK Ham Member QRZ Page

    W4INF-- thanks for posting the video! That was great! It was nice to see the rig in action.

    I took the plunge today and ordered the IC-718. They will ship it Monday and I should have it the next day.

    In the meantime, it's up into the attic (I live in a condo and no outside antennas are permitted) for me tomorrow and get the antenna installed. It should be fun as I have to walk on the rafters as there is no floor installed up there! If I work on antennas very often, guess what's getting flooring installed?

    Again, thanks much for the info and advice, I appreciate it.

  13. WA3PAK

    WA3PAK Ham Member QRZ Page

    Ok, yet another dumb question.

    It appears that the 718 allows only one additional filter. If you add the 500 hz CW filter, does it affect the SSB reception or is there already an SSB filter on this rig?

    I have heard of a W4RT filter that evidently replaces the SSB built-in filter and adds a 500 hz CW fitler. Anyone tried this? Anyone installed it themselves or should this be left to W4RT? Thanks in advance.

  14. AB8XA

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    As it comes from the factory, the IC-718 has two filters in the second IF.  The first, FI-1301, is 6kHz wide and in all modes, including AM, the signal passes through it.

    The second, FI-611 (also know as the Murata) is 2.4 kHz wide.  In SSB, CW, and RTTY the signal passes through it, but in AM, it bypasses it.  In my opinion, the factory Murata filter is fine for SSB, but then I mostly use CW.  Then there is the optional filter position.

    If you're going to work CW, it won't be long at all before you want either the Icom FL-52a (500 Hz) or the InRad 400 Hz filter (set up in the power-up menu as a FL-52a) in the optional filter position.  Both companies also offer a 250 Hz filter, and while better for contesting, where you can use the narrow width, it requires a little slower tuning not to miss calls when just ragchewing.  I used the InRad 400 Hz, about $25 cheaper, a little narrower, and with steeper sides than the FL-52a.  

    Once you install it, you can set the power-up menu for it and have a N (narrow) filter option on CW and RTTY.  When N is selected in those modes, the signal goes through the optional filter rather than the 2.4 kHz Murata.

    I have no experience with the W4RT filters.
  15. W6DRX

    W6DRX Ham Member QRZ Page

    Congrats on ordering the 718. You wont be disappointed, again it's a great value. Antenna's are so very important and you may want to try a few designs to see what works well in your situation.

    The first time I listtened to a 718 was at a dealer in the middle of a industrial/commercial area. I live in more of a rural area and there was much better performance in my QTH. No I am improving my antennas and have had some excellent dx along with great signal reports. Good antennas are key.

    I also have the Inrad 400 cw filter and it helps a lot. This is a great site if you have questions. There are also a number of Yahoo groups around the IC-718 users. There you can be very specific with questions and get answers from users around the world.

    Good luck & enjoy!
  16. ZL1DOM

    ZL1DOM Ham Member QRZ Page

    I have a 718 and it is one of the best value for money rigs around. If you are happy to have a rig without FM it will suit you fine. The menu system  in the 718 is quite easy to follow and it is a very user friendly tranceiver. After owning the 718 for over two yearsI wouldn't part with it. Recently I decided to replace my old Yaesu vhf and uhf rigs with a radio that would cover everything so decided to get a 706mk2G but will keep the 718 because it works so well.
    Murray ZL1DOM
  17. Guest

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    That excuse worked for me. I guess it worked for you also. The first thing your going to notice, at least on SSB, is the DSP filter option in receive. Once you've used it there will be no going back to older radios.


    Frank [​IMG]
  18. AB1FV

    AB1FV Ham Member QRZ Page

    I have a 735, but not a 718.
    I can tell you, however, that the 718 looks a little less intimidating than the 735, and is more compact.

    My 735 was made in 1987, and it still works great!

    My 2c....

  19. KD8GKR

    KD8GKR Ham Member QRZ Page

    i love my 718 for the money and what you actually get for the $$$!!!!!!!! i use the ldg at-7000 interfaced with mine. great combination
  20. W4GLM

    W4GLM Ham Member QRZ Page

    735 - 718

    735 - old technology

    718 - new technology

    new is better old could be or is getting hard to get parts for.

    new is better.....Mac
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