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IC-T7H Cloning

Discussion in 'General Technical Questions and Answers' started by KB0DN, Dec 6, 2009.

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  1. KB0DN

    KB0DN Ham Member QRZ Page

    Anyone know the procedures for radio to radio cloning of IC-T7Hs?
     
  2. KA9MOT

    KA9MOT Ham Member QRZ Page

    Isn't it in the manual?
     
  3. KB0DN

    KB0DN Ham Member QRZ Page

    No, not in the manual
     
  4. KA4AAA

    KA4AAA Ham Member QRZ Page

    I've had one of these for quite some time now. I'm not 100% positive on this, but I don't think you can clone an IC-T7H. The closest I think you can do is use an OPC-478 'Cloning Cable' (Icom's term. What they actually mean is that you can hook the HT to a computer and program memories in).

    If you're using more than one T7H (which you obviously are), then I'd just use the software (see the T7H Yahoo group for some software. There's actually some freebie software out there for programming this rig). Set up your settings/channels/frequencies and just swap out rigs and send all the programing to each rig.
     
  5. KB0DN

    KB0DN Ham Member QRZ Page

    That's the conclusion I'm coming to. Universal Radio however, is listing the OPC-474 radio to radio cloning cable for the IC-T7H. I sent an email to Icom, waiting for a reply.
     
  6. K8ERV

    K8ERV Ham Member QRZ Page

    I think the 474 is just a common stereo patch cable, which Icom usually uses. Goes in both speaker jacks. The tip is the audio, the ring is for data.

    This works for my T90, might try it. Note that you only set up the MASTER, leave the slave alone.

    TOM K8ERV Montrose Colo
     
  7. KF6NFW

    KF6NFW Ham Member QRZ Page

    yes you can use just a stereo patch cable or you can order the same cable from the net for about 500% markup, either way K8ERV has it right, tip to tip and ring to ring the sleeve is not used.
    This is the typical configuration for most icoms as well.
    I dont recall who but someone gave me a copy of the programming software which works on the w32 t7h and t2h if I recall correctly.
     
  8. KB0DN

    KB0DN Ham Member QRZ Page

    I have the cloning cable, just don't know which buttons to push to start the procedure
     
  9. K8ERV

    K8ERV Ham Member QRZ Page

    All you need are 10,000 monkeys. Most of them are right here on QRZ.

    TOM K8ERV Montrose Colo
     
  10. KF6NFW

    KF6NFW Ham Member QRZ Page

    If the manual doesnt tell you, you may need to do a google search with generic terms untill you get closer, or I will see what I can do to help from here
    so far I think you will have to have the software to do the cloning according to my software I have here.
    Note What I have here is for the T7A which is the same as the H version, the difference is the A cam with a Wall wart charger, and the H version did not. Otherwise identical in every manner.

    However, if you didnt look at the quick thumbnail posted by K8ERV, you need to, these steps are typical of iCom once again.

    here is the page view of the software I have for the cloning steps:

    Radio | Get data from

    Uploads the contents of the radio memory into the current file. The IC-T7A must be connected to the computer with RT Systems Clone Interface Cable. This cable plugs into your serial port on one end and into the IC-T7A earphone jack on the other. The serial port used by IC-T7A Programmer can be selected with the Radio | Com port setup command.

    When you execute this command, you are presented with a transfer status window that shows the per cent complete. At this point, with the cable plugged into the earphone jack of the IC-T7A radio:

    1. Turn on the IC-T7A.
    2. Click OK on the computer. The IC-T7A display will show CL OUT and the per cent bar in the transfer status window will be filled in as the data is transferred.
    When the transfer is complete, the transfer status window will disappear and the IC-T7A Programmer main window will reflect the radios configuration. The main window title bar will show NONAME.ICF, indicating this is a new icom clone file.

    Troubleshooting

    If you get a Receive Timeout or Receive Checksum error message, simply retry the operation. If the problem persists, verify the cable hookups and serial port selection. If you plug the cable in after starting the transfer, this will occasionally cause a glitch on the serial line and a Receive Timeout will occur. Again, just use the Retry button.
    See also Contacting RT Systems.

    Radio | Send data to

    Downloads the current file to the IC-T7A radio. The IC-T7A must be connected to the computer with RT Systems Clone Interface Cable. This cable plugs into your serial port on one end and into the IC-T7A earphone jack on the other. The serial port used by IC-T7A Programmer can be selected with the Radio | Com port setup command.
    When you execute this command, you are presented with a transfer status window that shows the per cent complete. The transfer will start when you click the OK button, but first, you must put the IC-T7A radio in CLN RX mode:

    1. Plug the cable in the earphone jack of the IC-T7A.
    2. Turn on the IC-T7A.
    3. Click OK and the per cent bar in the transfer status window will be filled in as the data is transferred. The radio will show CL IN.
    When the transfer is complete, the transfer status window will disappear and a Send Data Completed message is displayed. If the transfer was successful (from the radios point of view), then the IC-T7A display will show CL END. Turn the radio off and back on to return to normal operation and activate the changes. If the display shows CL ERR, then the IC-T7A detected an error and its memory was cleared.

    Troubleshooting

    If you get an occasional CL ERR from the IC-T7A, simply retry the operation. If the problem persists, verify the cable hookups and serial port selection.
    See also Contacting RT Systems.
     
    Last edited: Dec 6, 2009
  11. KF6NFW

    KF6NFW Ham Member QRZ Page

    Mr. Lamb, I have to say thank you very much by the way for the handfull of 1n4001's and the ic sockets, now I have to get a usb to serial adapter that works, as the one I have doesnt with my interface I built.

    as for the monkeys, I am not so convinced, I think some of the guests here are sheeple!:D now where did I put my cattle prod!
     
  12. KB0DN

    KB0DN Ham Member QRZ Page

    I guess the IC-T7H cannot do Radio to Radio cloning, only software programming. This is what I am seeing from the posts. By the way thanks to the posters, much appreciated. I did read the thumbnail and I have seen other instructions for other Icom Hts, but none bring up clone mode on my radios.

    Doug, KB0DN
     
  13. KF6NFW

    KF6NFW Ham Member QRZ Page

    Sorry if I sounded rude and implied you werent paying attention, by no way was that the intent!:)

    Send me a PM and I will see what I can do to get you the software. However, just having the cable and software wont solve the problem, there is also a small interface that can either be built or bought. Most including myself choose to build as it really is very easy, some basic crude skills are required, you dont even have to solder but it does help if you know how to, other wise it is all wrapping of posts which takes way to long when a couple seconds with an iron can do a better job.

    The interface is very simple and can also be built to include the digital interface(TTL converter) for packet and other digi modes.
     
  14. K8ERV

    K8ERV Ham Member QRZ Page

    This site claims to sell a cheap CS-T7 pc/rig program. Ebay has some cheap OPC-478 cables. There is a 478U usb rather than serial, more expensive. I have both, they work, sometimes. Good luck.

    TOM K8ERV Montrose Colo

    http://www.lentinicomm.com/LC080125.htm
     
  15. KB0DN

    KB0DN Ham Member QRZ Page

    I just bought an OPC-478 USB clone off of Ebay. Now for the software. Trying the IC-T7h Yahoo Group, once they let me in. Thx
     
  16. KB0DN

    KB0DN Ham Member QRZ Page

    Case Closed, Thx to those that responded

    Icom's response:

    Good Morning......

    Thanks for your e-mail.

    I'm very sorry but the T7H does not have any capability for radio-to-radio cloning. You can program from the front panel and from software but not radio-to-radio. The software is produced by an aftermarket company called RT Systems and is not supported by Icom.

    Best Regards;


    Mike Hilton
    Technical Support Representative
     
  17. KF6NFW

    KF6NFW Ham Member QRZ Page

    I have the RT systems software, again if you need it, send me a PM and I will see what I can do to send it to you.
    I never tried radio to radio as I never had two of the same other then my Yaseu FT-470's.

    again the software I have will work on the w32 T2H and T7A/H
     
  18. K8ERV

    K8ERV Ham Member QRZ Page

    Interesting. Somehow I got the impression that Icom had aquired RTS. Anyone know?

    TOM K8ERV Montrose Colo
     
  19. KF6NFW

    KF6NFW Ham Member QRZ Page

    Nothing I have read affirms this assumption! Back when I was building my interface in which you helped with, I asked the same question, and got an astounding "not in this lifetime reply"!

    I think many have assumed this because of the somewhat working relationship over the CIV cables.
     
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