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HRD Software, LLC releases version 5.11a

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  1. W4PC

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    Tampa, FL February 29, 2012: HRD Software, LLC announced today they have released version 5.11a of Ham Radio Deluxe.

    This latest version follows the release of version 5.1 on Feb 10, 2012 and is another step in the continuing project of the company to eliminate outstanding issues found in previous versions of HRD. Rick Ruhl, W4PC, co-owner and lead programmer said, "We’ll continue to update the 5.1x releases with "bug fixes" as the development of enhancements for the 6.0 release continues.

    To facilitate both bug fixes and enhancements to Ham Radio Deluxe, the development team is to moving the program source code from the obsolete Visual C++ 6.0 development environment to current Visual Studio 2010 development environment. This major step enables a more straightforward, bug-free development process and better program integration using the more powerful VS 2010 and its support tools for enhancements to HRD."

    The 5.x releases of HRD are free. HRD Software LLC does have direct paid support with phone and email for the 5.1x products for an introductory price of $59.95. This pricing plan includes version 6.0 at no additional charge. The introductory price expires upon release of Ham Radio Deluxe 6.0.

    The scheduled release of Ham Radio Deluxe 6.0 is May 18, 2012 at the Dayton Hamvention and on line. The MSRP for Ham Radio Deluxe 6.0 with support will be $79.95 when it is released.

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  2. KH2D

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    Do you have an email address for bug reports?

    73, Jim KH2D
  3. W8MRL

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    Well, they just priced themselves out of the market. At $25.00 they sell a hundred thousand copies at $80.00 they sell ten thousand. Volume not high price to make your profit.

    At $80.00 I guess I'll run the latest version for many years.
  4. KC9MEA

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    Even $60 is a bit much, but $80? Maybe they're trying to compete with MixW or something.
  5. W9CLL

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    Nope they are just getting too full of themselves, time for an open source rival to emerge.
  6. W0RIC

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    HRD should continue to be free. Sell advertising to cover costs. IF it becomes a manditory charge, many users(thousands) will flee back to other free programs. EXAMPLE: If tax software costs 40 bucks and you get a refund, its a good deal. 80 bucks for a program like HRD is a rip off. I guess the dumbing down of ham radio has gone way too far now.
  7. W3TWG

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    I guess I would ask what the term/version limit is for the $80 before I decide if it's a deal or not. If it's registration and support until v7 and a garrantee that will take at least two years, with a promise of worthwhile enhancements in new version - maybe then it's worth supporting. But not $80 a year.
  8. KJ4IDH

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    What if we want version 6 without any type of support?

    Not sure if the upgrade is worth the risk if it runs like PHP-nuke and the poll on the site.

    Do you really want to make a profit? If so offer it as free then charge for support. Get them hooked first.
  9. K2AFY

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    Over priced there are alternatives out there for DM780 and the Logging. Time to switch.
  10. KA1ILH

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    Is it worth the cost?

    One has to ask oneself if over the years that you have gotten it for free and all the hours of development to get it to the point where it is - "Is it worth $80"?
    Over the years I have given them $$$ to help out and now they want me to pay for it for support?
    $80 is a bit much that is for sure! They may be shooting themselves in the foot with a cost of $80 - the question is what is the difference between forum support and their new support?
    Personally I have found hams from the world over have given me more support then what I would ever get from a single source point.
    Continue to ask for donations and offer a better support system to those who do, rather than pricing yourself out of the market; is my thought!

    vry 73
    Chet - KA1ILH
  11. KD8MJR

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    I think people are a little hard on these guys, they did release version 5.10 for free and it did fix a few issues with 5.0Beta and it worked much better than 5B for most people so I dont think any of us can complain about that. I think the $80 price tag is a bit steep I would be happier with a $50 price tag without any support. Still I will wait and see what 6.0 offers, if they have fixed the bugs and added better CW decoding in DM-780 it might become a deal maker for me. I sure would love if the Waterfall could show CW and RTTY, it would make life during contests so much easier. Anyway I hope they keep up the good work I look forward to seeing what they come up with.
    Last edited: Feb 29, 2012
  12. KD8MJR

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    "the development team is to moving the program source code from the obsolete Visual C++ 6.0 development environment to current Visual Studio 2010 development environment"

    I remember saying in the first thread the one about HRD being sold, that they would be better off rewritting the code then trying to patch the old code, I guess I was right because I have used the "Conversion tools" that microsoft offers and they are fairly useless! So I imagine they just went ahead and rewrote the software which IMO is quicker and neater to do than trying to decipher another coders work.
  13. NA4IT

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    FLDigi... all the above plus... and F R E E

    As for the CAT software, I don't use it, but FLDigi does cover a lot of rigs with frequency control.
  14. WA6MHZ

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    FREE is GOOD!
  15. K2NCC

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    Wow. Sure didn't take long for the nay-sayers to come crawling back! Folks, I don't like to pay for anything I don't have to either, but 80 bucks is well within what other radio software costs. If you paid for anything, you'd know that. I don't think I've bought ANY ham software for under 50 bucks or so. Some are over 200, and for those with more money than they need, you can easily spend $8k for packages such as Hoka.

    You can pay 60 now and save 20 bucks.
  16. K0WJ

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    Chet hit the nail on the head. I've never seen better support than the Hams that use it. $80 is ridiculous and HRD/DM780 simply aren't worth it.

    Lon, KØWJ
  17. KC2GYU

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    I definitely won't be buying that. For as much trouble as HRD has given me in the past, and all of the free support from helpful Hams, I don't see a reason to upgrade to a paid version with paid people providing technical support. If the software was that great you wouldn't need paid tech support :D
  18. K0GDI

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    Question for W4PC....

    What exactly do we get for the $80? Paid support is not worth anything really. There are so many people that can help others with problems that you are having. Also what is your support email address so that we can submit bugs??? Everytime I try to upload to LOTW the logbook crashes and I need an email to submit the bug. Also I think that $49.95 is more reasonable for software. I do understand that it takes a lot of time, sweat, and tears to redevelop the software in a different language. I appreciate that. I've developed software and know the woes. :) If you could let us know if $80 covers you with free upgrades to 7.0, 8.0 and etc or is it $80 a year etc... I see that a few of us would like to know these things before we submit payment. Also is there going to be a demo or 30 day trial of HRD? I think it to be important as some people are leary about spending $80 on software that might not suite them. Let us know some more details and I am hoping the website gets a professional update.... It needs it. I'm sure you are working as fast as you can and I do appreciate it. Some answers to clarify would be great!


    Greg D Isringhaus
  19. N2PHI

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    I know I won't be paying to use it. I will look for another free program or just go back to logging on paper. It really doesn't have any advantages.
  20. K0GDI

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    These are totally different people taking over the project.. I would give them a chance....
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