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How did your gear get stolen?

Discussion in 'Stolen Radios, Scams and Rip-Offs' started by W7LHK, May 11, 2012.

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  1. W7LHK

    W7LHK Ham Member

    I frequent a lot of forums in a lot of venues that have Ham's on the boards. One thing I have noticed for some time is how we are all very careful not to post our locations or our real names etc. But then I see the same people post their call-signs publicly, which if searched here or other sites spills the beans so to speak. You get address, name etc.

    So my question is; If you have had gear stolen, can you attribute it to the public display or availability of your call-sign.
     
  2. G4SRN

    G4SRN Ham Member

    Common sense comes to mind with our "hobby" giving the required amount of information to the required amount of people to receive QSL cards is the goal but some radio "humans" like to "show off and brag".posting YOUR full address and photographs of your equipment is fine as long as you have a good alarm system and cctv cameras at YOUR location,my mobile equipment are VHF and HF yaesu tranceivers inside my jeep,both tranceivers have slide mounts and both large antennas are quick release but this DOES NOT stop passers by perving into my vehicle because they see large mounts on the bull bar and rear of the jeep for my antennas which have been removed.antennas are the give away for our equipment mobile or home base,beams,rotators,huge towers,long or short wires with insulators on and vertical antennas, theives are NOT STUPID they know that expensive equipment is connected to the other end of a coax feeder and they know thats its Amateur equipment or C.B. equipment and its generally stolen to order by someone locally and sent away from your area for opperational use.sleeping on your radio equipment stored under your bed is not practical when not in use,so common sense,no bragging,engrave your information on your radio equipment if you intend to keep it, only publish what you require for QSL information,alarm systems and cctv recording at your QTH if possible,a lot of opperators would not think twice about spending £2.000 on a "NEW TRANCEIVER" but they dont have a alarm system !! you might as well leave all your doors open and welcome theives in. Regards Dave.
     
  3. KB2FCV

    KB2FCV Ham Member

    I had a dual band mobile stolen out of the car one time. I had it apart in plain view on the back seat as I was going to run and see if I could get a dial lamp for it. When I got back with a bulb to see if it would fit the radio was gone. I left the car door unlocked. I was in and out of the store in 5 mins. My guess is that someone watched me fiddle with radio while I took one last look before I walked in the store and saw it as a quick and easy grab.

    As far as our callsigns and addresses go, well... our info is out there for the world to see.
     
  4. G4SRN

    G4SRN Ham Member

    YOUR CALL SIGN is "OUT THEIR" for people to see, but YOU give permission to the data base to allow YOUR QTH address and photographs to be printed and accesible for thieves to "FIND YOU", COMMON SENSE is needed, all you need to give is your CALL SIGN and STATE everything else YOU can "OPT" out of. AS I have said humans like to BRAG and SHOW OFF(eg. look at the size of my antenna,I spend a lot of money on equipment, so proud to be an Amateur Radio Opperator, Instead of remaining "LOW PROFILE") And as for leaving YOUR tranceiver in the back of your vehicle on DISPLAY (even for a short time) you deserve TO HAVE IT STOLEN, the mind boggles with YOUR CONFESSION on this forum.
     
  5. G4SRN

    G4SRN Ham Member

    I also noticed on YOUR page that YOU have given Your FULL ADDRESS and LOVELY photographs of YOUR EQUIPMENT, this way thieves NOW KNOW where YOU LIVE and they can "GOOGLE" the value of YOUR EQUIPMENT on the Internet, showing off and poor common sense equals Radio Equipment "STOLEN".
     
  6. N0MKC

    N0MKC Ham Member

    Except that for US hams, we CANNOT OPT OUT from the FCC database so far as listing our addresses goes... It is regarded as a matter of public record.

    All it takes is a visit to fcc.gov ( http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/searchLicense.jsp ) and entering the call sign to get the registered address. Some will put in a PO box instead of their home address, but not many...
     
  7. KB2FCV

    KB2FCV Ham Member

    Perhaps we're being just a tiny bit paranoid? Last I checked I haven't heard of theives that come specifically to QRZ.com to look for random people's qrz pages for their next score. Could it happen? Sure, anything is possible. In my 20 years of being a ham I've never heard of ham radio operator's houses specifically being targeted - stripped of every piece of gear by ham radio bandits. I hardly think my station is anything to brag about. I've maintained a qrz page for years with photos on it. I own a house, since parts of it appear on my qrz page should I worry about coming home and finding someone stole it right off the foundation? It's worth way more than my radio station. As far as stuff being in open sight in the car, I wasn't aware that my car was public property free for anyone to reach their hands in and grab what they want. Someone could have just as easily broken in and stole the entire car - worth more than the radio! Oh, that would have been my fault too by flaunting my "wealth" and owning a car and driving it around as I please. Cars get broken into all the time. I've known people who had the factory stereo taken out of their cars... are they supposed to rip their own dash apart and take the factory stereo out every time they drive it around and park? Stuff happens.
     
  8. KC0VYJ

    KC0VYJ Ham Member

    I went to a PO box it helps.
     
  9. G4SRN

    G4SRN Ham Member

    So "GIVE YOUR PO. BOX",their REALLY is "NO EXCUSE" even in your State or Country where YOU RESIDE, It still comes down to YOU Requesting to be LISTED giving and allowing TO MUCH INFORMATION to be SEEN, as I have said humans like to "BRAG" and "SHOW OFF", if YOU can give as "LITTLE INFORMATION" as possible please DO IT. And as for PHOTOGRAPHS its the "ULTIMATE BRAGGING". Thieves are NOT STUPID people and KNOW what they are STEALING, MOST have a BETTER UNDERSTANDING of EQUIPMENT than some LICENCED RADIO OPPERATORS in this World. So PLEASE its a "NEED TO KNOW" basis on information and "MOST PEOPLE DO NOT NEED TO KNOW", or YOUR equipment will go "BYE BYE".
     
  10. KB2FCV

    KB2FCV Ham Member

    Pot, meet kettle.

    On your qrz page: "I have a very well equipped workshop to the rear of my property (common sense dictates their are NO PHOTOGRAPHS, I DONT WANT to advertise my "toys" to BURGLARS unlike some on this site) Best Regards, Dave(Merlin)."

    Didn't you just advertise there? If you really wanted to keep a low profile to keep all those thieves from finding anything about you or your stuff, then why have anything at all on your qrz site? Especially mentioning that well equipped shop on your property?
     
  11. N0AZZ

    N0AZZ Ham Member

    Things must be a whole lot worse in the EU than it is here in the US. I literally know hundreds of hams who have everything listed here as well as other places and that not one has EVER had anything stolen, so far. The FCC has all info anyway and those listing only a PO box my 12 yr old grandson can find your address and phone in about 5 min or less using the computer it's that easy.

    One problem you may have over there in the EU is that the crooks know that they most likely look down the barrel of a gun if they the wrong house as it here. Anyone entering my house would make me fear for my life and I would use deadly force to stop them as would my wife. We both are prepared and trained to do so and have no qualms about it. Our laws are quite different here when it comes to someone entering your house and my cars are always parked inside all of them (5) and we live in the country.

    God bless our Troops and pray for them on this Memorial Day and the ones that have fallen before them.

    And that is all there is to tell, it could happen but they would have to bet there life we aren't at home.
     
  12. KC2TCM

    KC2TCM Ham Member

    I'm mostly relying on thieves not knowing what all this gear is for and how much it's worth. Of course, I always lock my vehicles, it deters the casual thief. I think most hams out there would question someone selling ham gear that wasn't a ham, too. I suppose if it ended up at a pawn shop that could be something else. Maybe 1% of the pawn shops out there be reputable enough to actually know, or want to know, anything about ham radio and maybe ask for a person's callsign before buying ham gear. Not holding m breath for that tho.
     
  13. KJ6OJL

    KJ6OJL Subscriber

    Here is a great idea, Use a mailing address and Not True home address,
    wow would they be disappointed breaking into my Call sign tied address.
    As not one Piece of radio gear is there, Hell nothing really even of value.
    73
    KJ6OJL
    Don
     
  14. AJ4GQ

    AJ4GQ Ham Member

    Very nice, Patrick. Now please use that spray and remove this obnoxious character from QRZ and suspend his posting privileges. Enough is enough.
    Thank you.
    Hart
    AJ4GQ
     
  15. KA7BAD

    KA7BAD Ham Member



    I use a PO Box for ham related stuff. look me up and see. further, all of our vehicles and even my driver's license list the po box. I like the ability to be discreet. Also, some local hams even announce on air "we'll be in florida for a month, so please keep an eye on our place" and the like. just as bad since anyone can scan the bands. No, i'm not paranoid, just private and will never share those sort of details. FCC makes out licensing info public-- we have no choice, hence the postal box idea.

    As for the car, stealth install is key but its hard to disguise an external antenna.

    good luck gents!
     
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