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Germany hits back against French 144 MHz Aeronautical plans

Discussion in 'Amateur Radio News' started by G4TUT, Aug 27, 2019.

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  1. SM0AOM

    SM0AOM Ham Member QRZ Page

    It is very obvious that you are not in the position to consider the effects of deregulation, as the US spectrum and telecom markets still are among those most regulated in the world.

    When deregulation finally catches up with the FCC, the choice will be either a fee or something similar to get spectrum privileges, or no access.

    Regulation protect "financially weak" or "non-profit" spectrum users.
    In a deregulated system, no-one become "entitled" to spectrum just for "good looks" or because they helped in WW2.

    73/
    Karl-Arne
    SM0AOM
     
  2. KT1F

    KT1F Ham Member QRZ Page

    This is good news. For a while I thought we might have to start using all those dead repeaters to prove that 2m was still needed.
     
  3. WQ4G

    WQ4G Ham Member QRZ Page

    Land is set aside for public use and enjoyment. Why should the radio spectrum be any different? Why can't there be frequency segments set aside for the expressed purpose of enjoyment by the public?

    Based on what I have seen happen in the past, deregulation means a disorganized or unrestricted situation or event in which everyone may take part. To paraphrase this means 'free-for-all' and in the terms of radio spectrum this means 'freebanding.' There are already whole segments of bands occupied by 'freebanders' that have existed WITH regulations in place. What do you think it's going to be like when there are no (or significantly less) regulations?

    Also, I would be willing to wager that what will happen is that the 'regulations' that protect the public will be deregulated and the ones that protect corporations and corporate profits will remain in place or strengthened.

    Dan KI4AX
     
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  4. K6CLS

    K6CLS Ham Member QRZ Page

    Why must the fee be separate and explicit?

    I pay for all kinds of things through taxes, implicitly.

    Many things at the FCC are now free, because it costs them.more to collect and account the small fees ($25).

    That doesn't diminish anyone's interests in those items.
     
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  5. K6CLS

    K6CLS Ham Member QRZ Page

    Ha ha, that will never happen. It's called regulatory capture, in other words the tail wags the dog.

    The high $$$$ paid for spectrum, by the (oligopoly) incumbents, traises the barrier to entry... Keeps the competition out.

    Same thing with wired services. Why is Ajit Paid now chairman of the FCC? Verizon installed him. Tail wags the dog.
     
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  6. LW9EZG

    LW9EZG Ham Member QRZ Page

    I hope that never happens!
     
  7. N0AMY

    N0AMY Ham Member QRZ Page

    glad to see germany stand up.. here in the usa some of us are going to use the spectrum .. we paid for the radios and will use them..
     
  8. G3SEA

    G3SEA Ham Member QRZ Page

    Wundebar ! :cool:

    G3SEA/KH6
     
  9. W0PV

    W0PV Ham Member QRZ Page

    Some details on this report naming the individuals from DARC that contributed work and/or attended the CEPT meetings.

    Again, congratulations!

    "At the meeting of the CEPT Project Team A in June in Prague, only Germany had spoken out against the French suggestion: The DARC unit Frequency Management with Ulrich Müller, DK4VW, and Bernd Mischlewski, DF2ZC, and RTA consultant Hanspeter Kuhlen, DK1YQ, had despite the short-term nature of the French entry still have an opportunity to make an opinion. This then led to the rejection of the proposal by the German delegation. At the meeting of the Conference Preparatory Group of the CEPT this week in Ankara, further European administrations spoke out against the French proposal. Thus, the necessary quorum of at least six refusals was met.

    DF2ZC had previously prepared a detailed paper for the DARC, in which field strength calculations and signal simulations clearly show that the simultaneous operation of amateur radio and AMS in the 2 m band is not possible without considerable mutual interference. This document was even introduced as an official contribution of Germany in Ankara. Also, the IARU had substantiated in a separate statement substantive why the French request is not feasible."
     
  10. K7GYB

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    And with a corporate lackey now head of the FCC, expect things to get even worse. It goes to the highest bidder with this administration.
     
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