Foundations of Amateur Radio - Episode 95

Discussion in 'Amateur Radio News' started by VK6FLAB, Mar 31, 2017.

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  1. AF4RK

    AF4RK Ham Member QRZ Page

    Living in a land down under
    Where women glow and men plunder
    Can't you hear, can't you hear the thunder?
    You better run, you better take cover
    73
    AF4RK/H (Humor)
    :)
     
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  2. VK6NO

    VK6NO Ham Member QRZ Page

    Well done John I needed a laugh this morning as I just had to climb my tree to recover the rubbish bin. 73 Lindsay
     
  3. VK3YE

    VK3YE Ham Member QRZ Page

    In relation to the discussion on who may operate club stations under which conditions and whether any supervision is required, guidance on this can be found in the ACMA's Apparatus Licence Information Paper http://www.acma.gov.au/Industry/Spe...s/amateur-apparatus-licence-information-paper

    I would regard this as higher authority than a 'view' in an email from the WIA, which although it has particular functions devolved to it, is not the spectrum regulator.
     
    Last edited: Apr 4, 2017
  4. VK6NO

    VK6NO Ham Member QRZ Page

    Peter I agree with what you say but it raises a few legal questions as this podcast first presented.

    Do we have to use the words portable/mobile etc as per

    http://www.acma.gov.au/Citizen/TV-Radio/Radio/Marine-and-Amateur-Radio/amateur-operating-procedures

    This one we are being told has no legal foundation at all as it is an opinion or just suggested operating procedure.

    Now we are confronted with this one

    http://www.acma.gov.au/Industry/Spe...s/amateur-apparatus-licence-information-paper

    Is it the legal document or suggested opinion again. This one tends to more legal but another question arises. Why is it written on some club callsigns and not on others?

    As the regulator put to me by phone, my callsign or club callsign is issued to an individual and that I see as the explosive piece. I cannot go to your shack and sign as VK6NO as your address does not belong to me , I'm licensed 1000's of kilometres away. I can use it but I am the second operator and your log will show that.

    It was also explained, I cannot hand my callsign to a standard licence and rely on their honesty to use it at the required level. If I am mobile and my lady friend is talking to my mate as second operator and I go to buy our burgers all transmission must stop immediately as no one is supervising the stations correct use. I am the person responsible.

    So we are left with a minefield of legal questions that do really need answers. From past experience I can comment on some of this. Amateur radio inspectors travelled by road during their inspections in the north west. Exams were held at my premises and all inspectors called in as mobile stations and operated portable from their equipment. Once entering my premises they would chat locally in my shack as VK6NO/second operator to other hams etc.
    Hope this has been constructive as GEE I'm being hammered.

    Regards Lindsay VK6NO
     
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  5. VK6NSB

    VK6NSB Premium Subscriber QRZ Page

    They have a CLUB ADVANCED CALL, but NO CLUB ROOMS. And a "F" call and Standard lic holder can authorize themselves to use the Club license away from the registered address which is a private house
     
    Last edited: Apr 5, 2017
  6. VR2BG

    VR2BG Ham Member QRZ Page

    If VK is still a common law place, then anything not in your telecom law, subsidiary legislation (aka regulations), or on the licence itself - is of no significance.

    In the regulations there is no requirement to sign anything other than the issued callsign, yet in one of those links above the VK TA suggests how one might identify if located other than at the location given on the licence.

    I also note in nearly 40 years, I can't recall a VK starting a CW transmission with the CT prosign. Yet the VK TA suggests VKs should do this. Seems to me this might be a case of solutions looking for a problem, which is something civil servants seem to excel at. ;^)

    73, ex-VR2BG/p.
     
  7. VK6APZ

    VK6APZ Premium Subscriber QRZ Page

    7.15 When calling for the purpose of establishing communications , and at the end of each series of transmissions, the operator of a amateur station that is
    being operated as a mobile station or away from the authorized location shall indicate clearly from which he is transmitting, and that he is operating mobile
    or at an alternative location, call signs must be announced at least every ten minutes.
     
  8. W1YW

    W1YW Ham Member QRZ Page

    As someone pointed out, its not required, but certainly not illegal in the US.

    OTOH, there are times when it makes no sense to sign "/X". DX pileups in particular: its slows down the DX station and oftentimes they have to repeat the callsign..

    73
    Chip W1YW
     
  9. W4HM

    W4HM XML Subscriber QRZ Page

    When I lived in Cupertino, CA, in 1994 a 5.1 temblor struck while I was on the air and I wondered if I could sign /M EQ. When I went through three hurricanes here in Florida in 2004 I wondered if I could sign /M HU. In those cases my stations and antennas were literally moving around.;):eek:

    Though I'm an avid QRPer I don't sign /QRP because it can draw intentional QRM by QRP haters and also because I don't want the station I'm working to listen any more intently then he/she normally would if I were QRO.

    BTW I have never listened to a hamateur podcast as it's never interested me personally. I'd rather be on the air making contacts.
     
  10. ON7BAS

    ON7BAS Ham Member QRZ Page

    Outside of legal requirements which vary from one country to another, not adding /QRP will have the operator at the receiving end thinking that your antenna is not much better than a dummy load. Hi !
     

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