DXCC - Remote controlled stations

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  1. G3NYY

    G3NYY Ham Member QRZ Page

    This morning I worked a 7X2 station in Algeria on 40m. I discovered later that this station had been unattended, and was being operated by the license-holder from his second home in England! He was remotely controlling the equipment in Algeria via an Internet link.
    Does this contact count for Algeria for DXCC? Or England? Or neither?

    73,
    Walt (G3NYY)
     
  2. DK7OB

    DK7OB Ham Member QRZ Page

    I would say it counts for Algeria, since you made the contact on 40m, and the end points of that path were you and the station in Algeria. It doesn't matter how long the microphone cable was or if it was a virtual cable over the internet.

    But that's just me. I'm waiting for the expert's comments.
     
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  3. KP4SX

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    Algeria
     
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  4. WF4W

    WF4W Premium Subscriber QRZ Page

    Algeria - doesnt matter where the operator sits - just from where the signal originates
     
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  5. W6UV

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    Neither. I’d consider a contact like this to be akin to a contact with a maritime mobile station.
     
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  6. K1VSK

    K1VSK Ham Member QRZ Page

    Why not just talk on our cell phones?
     
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  7. ND6M

    ND6M Ham Member QRZ Page

    HUH??? what the heck are you guys talking about?

    The OP made an RF QSO to Algeria.
     
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  8. W6UV

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    Yes, but where do we draw the line?

    Should someone just air-drop an RF package on a remote island like Bouvet and operate it via satellite from their Home station? I say no—DX contacts should require an operator at the location of the transmitter for the same reason that contacts from a ship anchored just a few feet from a rare island don’t count for DXCC.
     
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  9. K1VSK

    K1VSK Ham Member QRZ Page

    Let's review - how are cell phone signals propagated?
     
  10. AF7TS

    AF7TS Ham Member QRZ Page

    Tongue firmly in cheek here, but 'drone dxpedition' anyone?

    Actually for some of these locations this would be a real challenge. A different sort of challenge, but a real one nonetheless. _You_ design a system that can just be dropped off which will automatically deploy suitable antennas, run on local power (solar, wind, RTD...) and then start making contacts. The system would need _two_ RF links, one to the operator and the other to the rest of the world. Basically a pseudo satellite that you drop on to a remote island.

    73
    Jon
    AF7TS
     
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