Dumb Noob question...

Discussion in 'The DX Zone' started by KI7HSB, Dec 21, 2017.

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  1. KI7HSB

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    Setting up my station... Antenna, tower, rotator, etc... Have not absolutely decided on the antenna yet. Wanted to go with a Yagi, but a friend has just about got me sold on a Hex-Beam instead. My main interest is in DX.

    Question: Is there any benefit in having an adjustable elevation feature on my rotator, or is that a feature that's only useful for EME or Satellite work?
  2. K2HAT

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    I have a Hex Beam in the back yard here, 6-20m, works nice, not as good as a large yagi, but light and simple.

    I bought mine from NA4RR Roger.

    I bought a different companies 1:1 balun, but he does sell a balun kit.

    I can not think of a reason to use a EME type rotator.


    I took a bunch of photos wiht my cheap cell phone when putting my NA4RR Hex beam together.

    Published on Sep 12, 2014
    I bought the NA4RR hex beam kit, and put it together over the last couple of days. I painted the fiberglass spreaders poles a few weeks ago. I put it together all alone; a second person would be a Very helpful thing. ;) Work Smarter...... Heads up if you buy the NA4RR kit; the optional balun is also a Kit, you will need some rg-213/rg8U/ low loss 400/ size coax with No pl-259 on it, to go through the Solid ferrite beads. A 90 degree pl 259 is also a good idea. I also was glad to have here, a double male pl-259 to go from the balun to the 90 degree, adapters are always a good idea to have spares of. I could not find a spare hunk of coax, so I used a 1:1 balun RF Isolator I had bought at Dayton Hamfest instead. I used GE Silicone caulk along the tubes on the base just to act as a vibration dampener. Do take your time and be Careful. I had 3 ropes holding the mast pipe when it was at an angle, the supporting saw horse did move once, and the ropes kept the mast from falling down. I have the thing guyed off on 4 spots not 90 degrees apart; but what was easy to use. 73 K2HAT :)
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  3. N7WR

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    I would rather go with an aluminum element yagi than a hex beam but part of my reason is high winds and lots of ice loading. As for elevation rotation capability on HF no. SAT and EME yes, HF no
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  4. KJ5T

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    In the end it depends on several factors:

    1) What is your budget
    2) What kind of operating to you want to do

    If I had 40ft of Rohn 25 and had to choose between a small tribander and a hex beam, I would probably go with the hex.

    If I was putting up 80ft of Rohn 45 and a real budget I would put something bigger up if I could afford it something like a Force-12 or JK antenna for the high bands, some monobander (maybe a shorty forty) for 40 meters and an inverted V for 80.

    The Hex Beams aren't bad antennas, and they are very popular because they are lightweight and easy to rotate with a TV rotator and from my minimum experience using one at NX5M it doesn't have to be all that high to have fun with it.
  5. KP4SX

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    No need for adjustable elevation.
  6. K9ASE

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    That was a great video :)
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  7. K4LRX

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    A good well built yagi will stay up forever, I can recommend M2, solid mechanical construction, also the Skyhawk was made by Bencher.

    Hex beam is nice, but consider the forward gain, FB ratio etc.
  8. W4IOA

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    I'd choose a yagi because of ice. An A3S is a good lightweight yagi. Then I'd find a used GAP Titan later for the other bands. That combo worked great for me in Oregon
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  9. K5RTR

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    I made a psk-31 contact the other day with a ham in Spain with 30 watts sent to a second-hand Hustler 5-BTV. It boils down to how much time and money you have to invest. Just remember, ANY antenna is better than NO antenna.
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  10. WF4W

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    every situation is different - you're lucky that you're in a location where a elevated, directional antenna is possible. However, do not discount the effectiveness of a ground mounted vertical with a decent radial field. I have a Hustler 6btv with about 60 radials - with this antenna I have worked 180 DXCC entities and achieved DXCC on CW, SSB, DIGI, 15m, 20m, & 40m. . . all within 10 months. I'm not bragging, just using my own experience to show that you dont NEED a gain antenna atop a tower to successfully work DX.

    There are limits though - from my location I have a VERY difficult time being heard in China, Korea, India, and other East Asia countries - perhaps a hexbeam or yagi would help me but unfortunately my wife and HOA (in that order) do not allow towers & visible antennas.

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