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Does It Really Matter

Discussion in 'Ham Radio Discussions' started by N6MEJ, Dec 2, 2012.

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  1. N6MEJ

    N6MEJ Ham Member QRZ Page

    Does it really matter that someone use Q codes when in QSO, oops, I mean when in conversation with another ham? Is it really offensive that someone using phone, “...QSY up five because of QRM” or is it more correctly stated "I am moving up 5 kilohertz in frequency because of the interference from an amateur radio operator that just started a conversation 1.5 kilohertz below me,”


    Recently, I have heard those that would dare use idioms like QSO, QSY, QRM, QRZ, hi-hi and the like, called jerks, morons, idiots and the like. Why? So what if someone wants to use a short cut or some other morse related idiom in conversation. Does it pain the amateur community so much that we now have fellow hams going on record to support other hams in condemning the use of such phraseology? Along with frequency cops, do we now have speech cops? I wonder if next we’ll have hams interfering with ongoing QSO’s to correct the language and provide monologue on the negative use of amateur idioms and its affect on the community as a whole. The last place I expected to find a requirement that someone use politically accepted speech was in the amateur radio ranks. Now this. Yes, I know its nothing new, though it seems to be taking on more fervency.


    Do I want to be in a ragchew (I think this is accepted speech) with someone who is always throwing out Q codes or other ham phraseology intended for the CW ranks. No, not really. At the same time it doesn’t bother me to hear it in someones dialogue on occasion. Amateur radio is a hobby, one that I enjoy immensely. Why spend time in the pursuit of pure speech, when there is a contact to be had right up the band a bit? I believe it is still allright to use the term CQ, isn’t it?


    Anyway….
     
  2. KA3JLW

    KA3JLW Ham Member QRZ Page

    Those abbreviations have meaning. They, by virtue of being abbreviations, are convenient for morse code use. They retain their meaning within the context of an amatuer radio conversation, regardless of mode.
     
  3. WH2HAO

    WH2HAO QRZ Moderator Volunteer Moderator Platinum Subscriber QRZ Page

    I'm just curious what happened to you to ask this. Because to me the answer is obviously it's ok, its what I do. Especially for the real common ones that pretty much everyone uses. Did someone give you a lashing or something ? Just curious.
     
  4. N6MEJ

    N6MEJ Ham Member QRZ Page

    No, I've not been taken to task for it. It wouldn't be good form. There is a continual reference to it here and elsewhere and I think it ridiculous...so off I went.
     
  5. N3AWS

    N3AWS Ham Member QRZ Page

    They are part of our ham culture and perfectly OK to use.

    73, Jim N3AWS

    QSY'ing now to another forum.
     
  6. WY5V

    WY5V Ham Member QRZ Page

    Q signals predate Amateur Radio and were intended as telegraphic shorthand. Although I personally find the casual usage in a voice conversation to be acceptable, I would avoid someone that uses them heavily. However, there are modern equivalents. The Internet has spawned a whole new generation of shorthand such as LOL, OMG, BFF, etc. I asked my niece just now and she confirmed that today's youth do indeed use these in casual conversation. WTF?
     
  7. KD6VM

    KD6VM Ham Member QRZ Page

    I understand there is a relatively new Q signal - QNH. "Name here is....."
     
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  8. WA6MHZ

    WA6MHZ Subscriber QRZ Page

    I find Q codes completely acceptable. But there are those Haters who rag anyone for using them outside of CW. well. ***** THEM!!!
    I will go back to my QTH shortly and have an Eyeball QSO with the OL, then QSY to her Camry where we can go to WINGS&THINGS where I can get copious amounts of 807s. Then, on the way home, I can QLF! (since I am not driving!). QRQ?
     
  9. W0DV

    W0DV XML Subscriber QRZ Page

    Call me lucky, I have only heard someone complain about Q-codes (on HF) being used on phone, once. I cheerfully told him to shut his pie hole, even though he wasn't speaking to me to begin with. There is no rule that says Q-codes are for Morse Code only. Plenty of articles on the internet regarding the topic.
    People who make an issue out of using Q-codes really bug me. They need to find another hobby.
     
  10. KD6VM

    KD6VM Ham Member QRZ Page

    I can't imagine not using QTH or QSL in a phone QSO.
     
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